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    The 800s are faster!

    CycleNews: reports that Colin Edwards has been faster in Sepang than last years pole position 990 - with both machines on qualifiers.

    Can someone enlighten me as to the reason for changing the capacity limit in 2007?

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    So that Honda could race a V4.
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    Oh my. Suzuki nowhere to be seen. Maybe their bike's where in for some warranty work.

    Don't tell Crybabyfromwayback, he'll get upset.

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    Just as many Hondas Finn.

    Oh well, so much for that conspiracy theory.

    I wonder how they got that Ilmore to go so fast? That thing was a dog last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    Oh my. Suzuki nowhere to be seen. Maybe their bike's where in for some warranty work.

    Don't tell Crybabyfromwayback, he'll get upset.
    I don't think they were at that test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    Just as many Hondas Finn.

    Oh well, so much for that conspiracy theory.

    I wonder how they got that Ilmore to go so fast? That thing was a dog last year.
    DUDE! Did you read the times in the report or just look at the placings???
    The Ilmore didn't go fast!! It did the most laps and was SEVEN SECONDS a lap behind Colin Edwards.........Probably slower than last year!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    Oh my. Suzuki nowhere to be seen. Maybe their bike's where in for some warranty work.

    Don't tell Crybabyfromwayback, he'll get upset.
    Shhh or Crasher will come and tell you the Suzukis were at Phillip Island, the Yamahas were not and now he's thinking it was vice versa. Or perhaps they've run a bush on third gear caused by a design fault?

    I'll stick by my earlier comments it all means squat. The result of the first race will be the first real sign of performance as the team don't let all their secrets out at once.
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    Read somewhere they went to 800cc to slow them down some what

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    They could have just removed a gear and kept the capacity no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilber View Post
    Read somewhere they went to 800cc to slow them down some what
    Yeah, that was my understanding also.

    So at this rate by 2010 the MotoGP class will be 250cc
    And the season hasn't even started yet!!!

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    Nope, they didn't do it to slow them down. Honda has been pressuring for the cc drop because it wanted to race a V4. Yes they have that much clout, and yes it is that simple.

    Most of the MotoGP pundits who know stuff (unlike me) agree on that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    Nope, they didn't do it to slow them down. Honda has been pressuring for the cc drop because it wanted to race a V4. Yes they have that much clout, and yes it is that simple.
    So if they wanted to make a V4 why did they not just go out and make one to fit the old formula??

    They could probably afford to do that.

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    Because they can adapt to a new rule change quicker than anyone else, and they want to keep the Championship away from Rossi and Yamaha. Honda's racing division is probably bigger in terms of people and revenue than Yamaha Motorcycles in its entirety, so the Rossi/Yamaha Championships are a source of great shame to Honda.
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    An interesting quote.


    Written by: Dennis Noyes
    Borrego Springs, CA – 1/9/2006

    The most controversial move the MSMA has made is the decision to reduce capacity to 800cc in 2007. They first approved a 900cc capacity limit for 2007 and then changed it to 800cc after bankrupt Aprilia’s Ivano Beggio passed the chairmanshipship to Honda’s Kanazawa. This move, driven by Kanazawa in the interests of safety, was opposed by the European factories at first, but finally Ducati accepted and Aprilia was only concerned about putting off the introduction of 600cc four-stroke prototypes in the 250 class. The move to 800cc caused new-comers KTM to abandon their V4 project. Rather than bothering with a lame duck 990cc, Ilmor, the engine-designers, went straight to work on an 800cc motor for 2007, though they still have no confirmed clients. If it is true that BMW are seriously working on a MotoGP motor, they too will have gone straight to an 800cc mill. And, while it is true that the 800cc high-revving four strokes will be yet more expensive than the big 990cc (“nothing beats cubes’) method of making 250 horse power, the fact is that the factories themselves are not complaining (yet, or out loud) about the anticipated costs, because they are the ones who ran up the ante.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merv View Post
    Shhh or Crasher will come and tell you the Suzukis were at Phillip Island, the Yamahas were not and now he's thinking it was vice versa. Or perhaps they've run a bush on third gear caused by a design fault?

    I'll stick by my earlier comments it all means squat. The result of the first race will be the first real sign of performance as the team don't let all their secrets out at once.
    Merv, I've had too much to drink to habe a meaningful conversation wid you but Suzukee might as stik to a 1.2ltr 4 door pizza delivery carz. No chANCE BUDY

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