The 800s are faster!

[wilber]

Big write up in lastest kiwi rider regarding this smaller is faster

[Deviant Esq]

Big write up in lastest kiwi rider regarding this smaller is faster

Could someone possibly scan this article and post it up for us to have a read? Would be interested. Cheers

[Cleve]

So yes, the 800's are faster that last years 990's. But, how much faster would a 2007 990 be if they hadn't reduced the engine size this year!?

[TonyB]

Nope, they didn't do it to slow them down. Honda has been pressuring for the cc drop because it wanted to race a V4. Yes they have that much clout, and yes it is that simple.

Most of the MotoGP pundits who know stuff (unlike me) agree on that one.

One of the column writers for Two Wheels devoted his writeup to Honda's woes with the 800. It is aparently well known in MotoGP circles that Honda pushed very strongly for the change to 800cc. Honda is apparently pretty arrogant when it comes to their bikes- it's one of the reasons Rossi left, Honda believed he won so much cause he was on the best bike. Honda also firmly believed they had the most powerful and usable engine. 990/5 = 198. 198 x 4 = 792. Honda assumed that all they would have to do is lop the 5th cylinder off and they'd have the winning engine.

BUT- Honda were the only ones running a V5. Everyone else used a 4. Having an extra cylinder, the V5 in theory had an advantage as more cylinders usually means more power. Honda haven't had a power advantage lately with the V5. The theory is that Honda hadn't considered this, and turned up at official testing believing they would dominate, and they are now playing catchup. Remember the article I refer to was probably written 1 or 2 months ago, so things may have changed.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Oh my. Suzuki nowhere to be seen. Maybe their bike's where in for some warranty work.

Don't tell Crybabyfromwayback, he'll get upset.

Yeah cause he'll just say once more what little you know mate.....

Hello....Suzuki/Honda/Ducati all went on to test at Phillip Island!! While Yamaha did another test at Sepang.....

You knowledge of racing once more......simply astounds me.

[Coyote]

So at this rate by 2010 the MotoGP class will be 250cc
And the season hasn't even started yet!!!

And with development trickling down to road bikes, it would make the learner bike range a bit more interesting

[Finn]

Yeah cause he'll just say once more what little you know mate.....

Hello....Suzuki/Honda/Ducati all went on to test at Phillip Island!! While Yamaha did another test at Sepang.....

You knowledge of racing once more......simply astounds me.

I was refering to their pace... i.e "nowhere to be seen."

[TonyB]

Kind of difficult being on the pace or seen when you are on a different track in another country.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Oh my. Suzuki nowhere to be seen. Maybe their bike's where in for some warranty work.

Don't tell Crybabyfromwayback, he'll get upset.

I was refering to their pace... i.e "nowhere to be seen."

Sure you were......

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah it's funny......I seem to remember Finn saying something about me and my six toed foot in my mouth a while ago.......guess he'd know all about that by the look....

[Finn]

Yeah it's funny......I seem to remember Finn saying something about me and my six toed foot in my mouth a while ago.......guess he'd know all about that by the look....

So you do have a 6 toed foot.

I met a guy who knows you who said that you were like a kid when it came to debating. He said you always had to have the last word and that even when you were wrong (which he said was very often) you'd start making things up.

[denill]

So you do have a 6 toed foot.

I met a guy who knows you who said that you were like a kid when it came to debating. He said you always had to have the last word and that even when you were wrong (which he said was very often) you'd start making things up.

Umm, are we moving away from the MotoGP thread a bit???

And into personalities??

[Maido]

My prediction for this years championship is that there will be no real supprises and the finishing order will be much the same.
rossi will be leading pedrosa, caparossi, hayden then edwards.
suzuki and kawasaki will finish much more predominently than 06 but yamaha honda and ducati (only caparossi's bike) will dominate. llmor, well we won't mention them.
(honda will get the manufacturers title)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Here's mine...

Rossi
Hayden
Capirossi
Hopkins
Stoner

Pedrosa would be up there, but I think he's gonna get injured. I doubt his team mate, or anyone for that matter will give him much room.

[denill]

The MotoGP pre-season testing continues at the Losail International Circuit in Qatar. This third test of the season is arguably the most important so far, as Losail will play host to the first race of the season in just over three week’s time.

Once again the new 800cc bikes were proven to be just as fast as their 990 predecessors, with five riders lapping under the current lap record, set by Rossi on route to victory here last year.

There have been a few comments on who will be fast and who won't be so fast. Well right NOW - this is how it stands:

1.Colin Edwards (USA) Yamaha 1:56.774

2.Valentino Rossi (ITA) Yamaha 1:56.891

3.Casey Stoner (AUS) Ducati 1:56.960

4.Kenny Roberts (USA) Team KR 1:57.064

5.Nicky Hayden (USA) Honda 1:57.070

6.John Hopkins (USA) Suzuki 1:57.350

7.Loris Capirossi (ITA) Ducati 1:57.360

8.Carlos Checa (SPA) Honda 1:57.370

9.Alex Barros (BRA) Ducati 1:57.690

10.Dani Pedrosa (SPA) Honda 1:57.700

11.Randy de Puniet (FRA) Kawasaki 1:57.730

12.Marco Melandri (ITA) Honda 1:57.760

13.Alex Hoffman (GER) Ducati 1:57.800

14.Shinya Nakano (JPN) Honda 1:57.850

15.Chris Vermeulen (AUS) Suzuki 1:57.900

16.Makoto Tamada (JPN) Yamaha 1:58.408

17.Olivier Jacque (FRA) Kawasaki 1:58.740

18.Toni Elias (SPA) Honda 1:59.400

19.Sylvain Guintoli (FRA) Yamaha 1:59.700

20.Shinichi Ito (JPN) Bridgestone Test 1:59.966

21.Andrew Pitt (AUS) Ilmor 2:01.667

22.Jeremy McWilliams (IRE) 2:10.341