Stop picking up the soap you idiots!

[SwanTiger]

let me guess, your new car is a people carrier and your half hour work on the phone was a quick call to WINZ or the treaty commision?

i think you're all shit, otherwise you'd be riding round on a repsol now instead of talking about it and you wouldn't be trying to score a bargain deal on a fucking $500 repsol jacket.

Haha, yeah something like that, I have WINZ and 0800 WAITANGI GREIVENCES on speed dial. Check your PM for the other one.

[kro]

The thing that amazes me in NZ, is the utter lack of conformity of standards.

I work in the drainage and water reticulation industry, and know for a fact that there is nearly a different sized/shaped/patterned manhole cover used in nearly every town/city in NZ. Why is this?. Why can we not have one type nationwide?.
Foundrys and importers nationwide could dramatically rationalise their product ranges to half a dozen castings (tens of thousands saved in pattern costs alone), and then the price would come down........ why would it come down?....If they went to one type nationwide, then the price war starts, and because I can buy my manhole covers from one of 50 different places nationwide, instead of just one....... the price suddenly reflects the value of the goods, and it stops being a sellers market, and boom, everyone wins.

Just as an example, the Nelson City Council cast iron manhole cover has a big gay flowery design on it, and is 600mm in diameter, and there is one for stormwater manholes, and one for sewer manholes.... and these are pretty much only made in Nelson, by Nelson Foundry, and cost the end user 457.00 ea. That's right, nearly $500.00 for a fucking crappy old technology lump of cast iron that is smeared in bitumen, that is basically covering a poo hole in the road..... if you took the manhole cover back to the foundry, you may get $8.00 scrap for it.

The manhole example is one of hundreds in my industry, perhaps even a thousand or more.

[Motu]

One manhole cover for all - excellent comrade....can I interest you in a Lada? There must be competion in the manhole industry,no monopolies or price fixing.

[Teflon]

You know what I mean a young guy who's just left school and entered the work force!! And just discovered that offices are full of good looking women while his mates in a cold shitty workshop getting sexually harrassed by his homophobic co-workers!!

Yes, we do need more woman in our industry.. but, it is fun shaping these innocent, naive kids into absolute cunts.

[kro]

One manhole cover for all - excellent comrade....can I interest you in a Lada? There must be competion in the manhole industry,no monopolies or price fixing.

A rather glib interpretation of a workable idea involving manhole covers, not human rights or politics.

The standardisation of infrastructure practises and products would better facilitate contractors to work anywhere in the country where there is work that the locals can't handle. They can slap all the gear in the ground the same they do in their own town, without having to read every council specifications documents across the country. The specs are typically a full foolscap folder, not exactly light reading.

[TonyB]

Couldn't be arsed reading the full article, but what the nice people at the Auckland city Council aren't telling you is what a huge part they play in upping the cost- if they're anything like their Christchurch partners in crime that is.

'Development contributions' etc levied by the CCC now for new developments add up to a massive sum of money. From memory its in the tens of thousands per section and going up frequently. Remember though, the reason why real estate in NZ is becoming so bloody unaffordable is because successive governments have allowed NZ to be sold off to the highest overseas bidder.

I must say though, there seem to be a few threads by immigrants whining about what a shit hole New Zealand is. If it's so bloody terrible, why the hell did you move here? That's a serious question, not a windup.

[geoffm]

Couldn't be arsed reading the full article, but what the nice people at the Auckland city Council aren't telling you is what a huge part they play in upping the cost- if they're anything like their Christchurch partners in crime that is.

'Development contributions' etc levied by the CCC now for new developments add up to a massive sum of money.
.

A ustomer of mine has been hit with a development contribution of a bit over $500k for 28 retirement cottage villa thingies in Tauranga. The council take is as much as the cost of the units. I think the project got scrapped.
The councils add HUGE costs, as anyoen who has done any building will know. 5-10% of the budget is not unknown - for doing nothing and taking no liability or garentee.
There are a lot of monopolies or near monopolies in NZ on supply. I recall a few years ago a developer in Queenstown brought in mateirals in bulk from Aussie and saved 20% off the top. May have brought in labour as well.
Geoff

[marty]

let me guess, your new car is a people carrier and your half hour work on the phone was a quick call to WINZ or the treaty commision?

i think you're all shit, otherwise you'd be riding round on a repsol now instead of talking about it and you wouldn't be trying to score a bargain deal on a fucking $500 repsol jacket.

i'd say full of shit.


http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...&postcount=421

can't do 100hr weeks if you're jollying about on sh17.

[Toaster]

It's not JUST unemployment - the Gov't hides people like that putting them on the Sickness Benefit etc etc
Fuck the lazy leeches that don't want to work and just exist to fill the Courts.
..

Ah, said it like a true legend. I couldn't agree more! Has anyone worked out the 'numbers' on all the useless unemployed bludgers they transferred from unemployed to sickness beneficiary? I'm sure Labour wouldn't be keen to see that published, because oh they got the unemployment rate down (by shifting long-term unemployed no-hopers into sickness benefits and employing bureaucrats on mass into the public service).

[SuperDave]

I'm a refugee. What's your excuse?

You're very well off for a refugee.

I live here because I moved here from South Africa with my family and I'm too young for personal immigration to be really feasible for me. But to be honest I actually like it here.

Why are you really here, why don't you just go somewhere else if it's so bad here?

I see what you're saying in starting this thread but I also recall you bagging a lot of other things here as well. That's the reason for my question to you.

[SwanTiger]

i'd say full of shit.


http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...&postcount=421

can't do 100hr weeks if you're jollying about on sh17.

Learn to read you clown.

I work 100 + hours most weeks

You're welcome to spend one of those weeks with me if you like Marty, it's nice having a little bum boy to run around after you, and I'm sure you'd do a great job of it being an ex-piggy and all

[Finn]

You're very well off for a refugee.

I live here because I moved here from South Africa with my family and I'm too young for personal immigration to be really feasible for me. But to be honest I actually like it here.

Why are you really here, why don't you just go somewhere else if it's so bad here?

I see what you're saying in starting this thread but I also recall you bagging a lot of other things here as well. That's the reason for my question to you.

Cause I like fat chicks.

[Guitana]

Ah, said it like a true legend. I couldn't agree more! Has anyone worked out the 'numbers' on all the useless unemployed bludgers they transferred from unemployed to sickness beneficiary? I'm sure Labour wouldn't be keen to see that published, because oh they got the unemployment rate down (by shifting long-term unemployed no-hopers into sickness benefits and employing bureaucrats on mass into the public service).

You're right TOASTER me old bread cooker it's just a matter of moving people around, a numbers game then Aunty Helen can proudly stand in front of all her constituents and say in her best manly voice:In our term We have lowered unemployment!!! There may be ten thousand less unemployed but theres alot more sick cunts in NZ!!
No wonder the doctors are fucken leaving!!! Too much like hard work!

[Guitana]

Cause I like fat chicks.

Yeah FAT CHICKS can be fun!!!!!!!! Big Bouncy Castles full of lovin!

[TonyB]

A ustomer of mine has been hit with a development contribution of a bit over $500k for 28 retirement cottage villa thingies in Tauranga. The council take is as much as the cost of the units. I think the project got scrapped.
The councils add HUGE costs, as anyoen who has done any building will know. 5-10% of the budget is not unknown - for doing nothing and taking no liability or garentee.

Yep, the TA's try to justify their high charges by claiming that it offers protection to property owners. That's a tad rich when the whole "Leaky building" fiasco proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that they offer no protection at all.

There are a lot of monopolies or near monopolies in NZ on supply. I recall a few years ago a developer in Queenstown brought in mateirals in bulk from Aussie and saved 20% off the top. May have brought in labour as well.
Geoff

True. Many things here are like that though. How many options do we have for getting across Cook Strait?
Weren't Air NZ bailed out by the tax payer so that they could run first Ansett and then Quantas into the ground? The end result being that the tax payer GOES ON paying because airfares are monopolised.