Marshalls at Paeroa

[Shaun]

The money sure does not get back to riders who put this show on that is for sure

[justsomeguy]

That brings me to another question, where does the money/profit (if there is any) go anyway

there would have been 10-20,000 people there at a guesstimate" x say $10 "= 100 to 200 k,,!!!

hmmmmmm probably all gone on rental barriers etc etc,,

Very good question.

Anyone know the answer????

The amount of politics I see at these things is a bit...... can't say anything nice so I'll shut up now.

[Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)]

I have done quite a bit of marshalling but in the national and international car rally scene some years ago. However we did have good training. We never ever got paid for it or even got petrol vouchers - you did it purely out of love (or stupidity lol). But the comraderie, excitement, and the fact you got away for the weekend all added to some really great times.

I look forward to helping out VMCC if they choose me. I can't afford to race but at least I can be a part of the event in other ways.

[bistard]

Where does the money go????
I know for a fact any proceeds from Paeroa,go directly back to the community,over the years they have put hundreds of thousands of dollars,back in
If you watch Paeroa,the whole thing is built & pulled apart by the locals,they bring in the Auckland Motorcycle Club to run it on the day & that is it
As far as Wanganui goes,it is run & set up by the club for the club & I believe
the Wanganui Motorcycle club is one of the most financial clubs in the country,I dont know the specifics,but know they own a lot of property,including the local speedway track(or used to)

[Shaun]

Where does the money go????
I know for a fact any proceeds from Paeroa,go directly back to the community,over the years they have put hundreds of thousands of dollars,back in
If you watch Paeroa,the whole thing is built & pulled apart by the locals,they bring in the Auckland Motorcycle Club to run it on the day & that is it
As far as Wanganui goes,it is run & set up by the club for the club & I believe
the Wanganui Motorcycle club is one of the most financial clubs in the country,I dont know the specifics,but know they own a lot of property,including the local speedway track(or used to)

BINGO

The riders spend a -ukin fortune, and the club or local community make the money, with nothing go back into the kitty to deal with safety, training etc

[GIXser]

BINGO

The riders spend a -ukin fortune, and the club or local community make the money, with nothing go back into the kitty to deal with safety, training etc

im with you on this one, how about the safety issues first and then compensate the riders, after all they give up their time and money to make this happen---

[FROSTY:Me]

awrighty then---rather than turn this into a frigging almighty bitch session lets think positive here.
The milk is as they say well spilt from this year
What can WE do to make marshalling better.
I think KB --Our lil bunch of folk could supply enough marshalls for any darn event in the upper north island --let alone possibly the entire north island
What I would like to see is a training session on flag use Im prepared to put my body where my mouth is so to speak
So folk I want to hear from interested parties.
Im talking to a few people to see if I can offer a decent incentive for people to get trained propperly and turn up to do the marshalling.
Im thinking possibly a free track day at a "frostys track day" but I need to talk to a few folk first.

[stanko]

The NZSO dont get their violins out of the case if they arent getting paid. Maybe the competitors (performers) and volounteers shouldnt turn up unless the issue of costs and remuneration were addressed. All animals are equal, just some animals are more equal than others. maybe the trough needs to be bigger.

[justsomeguy]

awrighty then---rather than turn this into a frigging almighty bitch session lets think positive here.
The milk is as they say well spilt from this year
What can WE do to make marshalling better.
I think KB --Our lil bunch of folk could supply enough marshalls for any darn event in the upper north island --let alone possibly the entire north island

What I would like to see is a training session on flag use Im prepared to put my body where my mouth is so to speak
So folk I want to hear from interested parties.
Im talking to a few people to see if I can offer a decent incentive for people to get trained propperly and turn up to do the marshalling.
Im thinking possibly a free track day at a "frostys track day" but I need to talk to a few folk first.

I'd be keen - and I don't want a free anything - but I can't as I'm off...... so - sorry.

There are a few keen KB'ers here who've been marshalls in the past - you probably already know thier names.

The trick will be to get people who want to be marshalls - not track riders.... can't be both at the same time...

[SixPackBack]

awrighty then---rather than turn this into a frigging almighty bitch session lets think positive here.
The milk is as they say well spilt from this year
What can WE do to make marshalling better.
I think KB --Our lil bunch of folk could supply enough marshalls for any darn event in the upper north island --let alone possibly the entire north island

What I would like to see is a training session on flag use Im prepared to put my body where my mouth is so to speak
So folk I want to hear from interested parties.
Im talking to a few people to see if I can offer a decent incentive for people to get trained propperly and turn up to do the marshalling.
Im thinking possibly a free track day at a "frostys track day" but I need to talk to a few folk first.

Marshalling is shit job Frosty, traditionally people do it once or twice and think bugger this I'm baking in the sun from 5 in the morning till 5 at night and giving up my entire weekend for what?
If you think its such a good idea frosty give up racing for a year and Marshall instead.

[slowpoke]

Yep, fair comment (original post) I reckon. After watching some of the atrocious marshalling at Wanganui I was similarly unimpressed. Teenaged marshalls in socks (no shoes) on a stinkin' hot road trying to move crashed bikes/riders, and trying to get a bike out of gear by dicking around with the brake lever is just not good enough.
I've been there and done it, my partner has been there and done it and we both reckon it's a fantastic day out if you are remotely interested in bikes/bike racing. BUT there surely needs to be a modicum of nouse and/or knowledge before people are put in what are quite responsible positions.
Half the problem I think is that people who are genuinely interested have no way of knowing how to get involved. Who do you approach? How do you sign up? Are the positions advertised?
Imagine the response anongst genuine bikers if a single ad was placed in a high profile paper. Rather than just accepting people by word of mouth, get the enthusiasts involved there are plenty of them out there.

[Mumbles]

Did anyone think that the car following the riders on that first few laps couldn’t stop even if he wanted to?
This was something that I wondered about last year toooo

Great day out! thanks to all who gave up the weekend to race and marshaled, thanks to the guys and girls who I followed home

But there’s another thread with some of that…

[FROSTY:Me]

Folks I have a comment to make about the poor bastards marshalling on the hairpin .
Im not able to comment on what they did or diddn't do -i was only there for a fraction of a second per lap
What I do know for a FACT was they were getting very badly harrassed by a bunch of drunken young louts
The harrassment was not only thrown cans and verbal abuse but ended up being fire extiguishers stolen and set off by said fuckwits.
I do have a comment here --if I ever see one of said dickheads i will have no hesitation in shoving the extinquisher where the sun dont shine

[justsomeguy]

Did anyone think that the car following the riders on that first few laps couldn’t stop even if he wanted to?
This was something that I wondered about last year toooo

Great day out! thanks to all who gave up the weekend to race and marshaled, thanks to the guys and girls who I followed home

But there’s another thread with some of that…

Don't quote me on this, but I believe the person driving that car may have a little more driving skill than your average soccer mom or 15 year old boy. The new Nissan Maxima that he was driving has reasonable brakes too.
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Slowpoke - excellent ideas mate.
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Sixpack - know what your're saying - but as the cliche goes, "It's a rotten job but someone's gotta do it."
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Frosty - we were getting security complaints from Points 8 and 9 the whole day. We got complaints from Points 4 and 5 about once or twice.

My friend at Point 3 had issues with some drunks who were getting worse and worse as the day passed - they were even abusing the ambulance staff. They called security/cops - but no one turned up. There were too many youths for a couple of marshals to deal with - so they had to put up with the abuse - how sick is that......

[Shaun]

It is the second year he has had that particular car there, and the third year as safety car driver. He is very experienced and has a racing backround. The car stops very quickly. It needs to be moving at pace to keep up with the tail and get off the circuit before being lapped.
n case you dont realise the car contains a fireman, Paramedic, and race official. They all have radio contact. It is actually an FIV (first intervention vehicle). Paramedic and Fireman on scene of accidents within seconds of it happening.. hes not just driving around for fun.

You can shut up now