Smacking kids?

**stify** · 17th March 2007, 11:42

Originally Posted by cowpoos

You don't have to agree with anyone on here

....and you certianly don't have to apologise to anyone on here

....[sounds a little bit like paliament]....and you certianly don't have to spell or punctuate properly

[and a lot of people post with tounge in cheek]

There is no doubt that child abuse is a big problem in New Zealand [and around the world] but most people myself included can't see the point of this bill...it is NOT going to help the real problem...

Maybe we should be debating ideas that could help fix the real issuse??

with you there mr poos

me i got wacked a few times as a child, the last i remember dearly, the object used got smashed over my knee, at which point i started laughin,
It is not fine with me to disipline this way, and didn't stop me being a cunt when i wanted,now being a step dad to three very cool kids for a few years , it isn't something i've needed to do of which i'm glad,(we sit down and talk about what is ok for them to do, and let them understand,i take as long it needs for them to get it) each to ther own on this suject

**avgas** · 17th March 2007, 11:46

The law wont work - those that beat the shit out of their kids cant read anyhow

**kro** · 17th March 2007, 11:54

Originally Posted by avgas

The law wont work - those that beat the shit out of their kids cant read anyhow

To some degree, this may prove truthful, and it's social issues like this that perhaps we should be taking in hand, and not whether smacking is right/wrong.

**Guitana** · 17th March 2007, 12:23

Do you think an anti bullying bill might go before parliament soon???
If it does I think uncle Helen might be out of a job!!!! Most labour pollies dont want to vote yes on this one but the greenies have got them by the BALLS!! A bunch of tax wasting tree hugging lentil swilling no hopers with nothing better to do than force the country to bend to their will.
It's about time the politicians kept their fucken noses out of family buisness and let them do their job without having to worry about being arrested at the shops when you've smacked little Timmy for being a right little cunt and demanding everything in the lolly aisle!!!! Can't wait for the Armed offenders to storm some poor bastards house cos he whacked Johnny on the arse with a wooden spoon!!!!!
This has to be the nail in the coffin for the labour party passing bills on Joe public when 70-80% of the country dont want it!!
Just another reason to overload the NZ Police when they've got enough shit on their plates to deal with let alone worrying about all the 111 calls about a spoilt brat getting a backhand for being a prick at the playground.Never mind the P problem and the home invasions!!!
If we as parents are not responsible enough to raise our children then it's a pretty sad day for society!!!
If this happened in Aussie there would be such a fucken shitfight!! But Kiwi's seem quite content to let Uncle Helen and her rug munching cronies treat us like a bunch of special needs kids!! I sent a letter of protest to my politician and then rang the National party and asked for a membership form!!!!!
FUCK YOU HELEN FUCK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!

**hurricane_r** · 17th March 2007, 12:33

its against human nature not to smack,

abuse is not smacking
smacking teaches you wrong/right,

i was smacked and look how i turned out *cough *cough

**stify** · 17th March 2007, 14:08

Originally Posted by 98tls

theres still hope motu............"then over the hill came with chickens with guns "

"chickens in choppers".........from the "cows with guns" tune

kinda funny song if ya look it up i like the denis leary version

bit off topic but hey

**Quartermile** · 17th March 2007, 17:29

Originally Posted by Sweet_Sophie

I just don't agree with smacking and I certainly won't apologise for it. As for me being rude, I've been a member for 3 days and so far I've been called a slut, been invited to group sex, had a proposal from a 1080 inch dildo and been called a femanazi.

Yea thats pretty much how we roll on here

do I dare..........

.....

**terbang** · 17th March 2007, 17:34

Well I've just sprung one of my daughters (15) fucking her 18 year old boyfriend in the back of my car.. I feel like smacking someone, and he knows it too. Trouble is thats someone elses kid..

**Finn** · 17th March 2007, 17:39

Originally Posted by terbang

Well I've just sprung one of my daughters (15) fucking her 18 year old boyfriend in the back of my car.. I feel like smacking someone, and he knows it too. Trouble is thats someone elses kid..

I'm flattered but I completely understand. It's the shaved hair that makes me look 18.

**RT527** · 17th March 2007, 17:42

Originally Posted by terbang

Well I've just sprung one of my daughters (15) fucking her 18 year old boyfriend in the back of my car.. I feel like smacking someone, and he knows it too. Trouble is thats someone elses kid..

just do it ....when the judge asks ...he was raping her...

**imdying** · 17th March 2007, 17:43

Originally Posted by RT527

just do it ....when the judge asks ...he was raping her...

Well technically, that is rape.

**Guitana** · 17th March 2007, 18:04

Originally Posted by terbang

Well I've just sprung one of my daughters (15) fucking her 18 year old boyfriend in the back of my car.. I feel like smacking someone, and he knows it too. Trouble is thats someone elses kid..

Hmmm well you want to put the willies up the little fucker she sounds like she's under age!!!!!

**Guitana** · 17th March 2007, 18:12

Originally Posted by Sweet_Sophie

I just don't agree with smacking and I certainly won't apologise for it. As for me being rude, I've been a member for 3 days and so far I've been called a slut, been invited to group sex, had a proposal from a 1080 inch dildo and been called a femanazi.

Well you're doing extremely well!!!! Lets face it this site would be rather boring if we all behaved and did what we were told!!
After all it's a forum and you're entitled to your say!!!
Don't take it personal just give it back with interest!!!

**semaj** · 17th March 2007, 18:36

History has shown this government doesnt listen to polls and referendums anyway.
The only poll will matter is on Election day were we get to show them we dont have short term memories.
Vote out every one of the MPs that didnt have the guts to oppose this stupid bill.
This is thinly disguised social engineering that will be just the start of state control of our families lives.

**crack** · 17th March 2007, 19:24

Originally Posted by kro

Why is the state not protecting me from the children?. There are 9 yrs olds committing atrocites, 12 year old boys preying on our daughters, there are 14 year olds hurling lumps of freaking concrete through our windscreens for God's sake, and we are to protect the children.......... wrong answer pal. I have always fought against the idea that children are the centre of the famly. they are part of the family, not the centre. Too much damn time is taken up worrying about what the children need, and sweet fuck all is given to what the parents may need, in order to keep their family together, and happy.

I don't really care about the semantics, I will call smacking hitting if need be, but I will not change my stance on whether or not I should be allowed to use a corrective punishment, irrespective of what stigmatic word is placed on the action.

Pardon me for caring, but my darling 8 year old daughter used to have a rather unhealthy fascination for 3 pin power sockets, and would make a bee line for them anytime she had a chance. We tried everything, but in the end, we had to smack her, in order to drive the point home. Problem solved in an instant.

If you find pain as a teaching method, you live in a very idealistic world. As an 11yr old boy, I was being bullied mercillesly by one of the neighbourhood kids, and this went on for about 9 months, and we tried every damn thing we could with this kid, to make him stop. In the end, I got so fucked off, I took the matter in hand, and one day, as he was following me home, taunting me, he went too far, and ankle tapped me. I got up, turned round, and smacked him full on in the face, and decked him. The kid not only left me alone from that day on, but he stopped bullying full stop. He became a lot more involved in school in a positive way, and ended up playing beside me on the softball team.
In your world, that kid would be the same today, if not in jail, or dead.

Thanks Sue, we took corporal punishment off our teachers, and further crippled the states ability to manage schools, and now we find it hard to get teachers. Now we are going to chop society off at the knees, and remove the parents right to discipline. Watch this space Sue, in 15 years, lets revisit this, and see how fucked up your bill really was.

We are legislating like mad to compensate for out of control kids in cars, tearing up our roads, and killing innocent fpeople/amilies, and you want to tell me that "smacking is abhorrent". The rights we gave these kids 20 years ago, when we decided corporal punishment was bad, is making it's presence known today. Thanks Sue, you're a real pal.

Kro; well said, very well said, well done.