Not guilty (Police sex case verdict, 1 March)

**98tls** · 1st March 2007, 21:09

Originally Posted by maha man

My feelings on todays verdict?........the crown didn't do their homework, and unless you were there and heard every bit of evidence, or at the scene 20 whatever years ago, then one can only make judgement on gut feeling, and thats not how the law works, dont get me wrong im with most others in that, they got probably got it wrong but its a done deal now...

yea i guess...........but as i posted up back a bit a bloke...and a bloody good one at that and by all accounts a bloody good copper......that knew these guys reckons Mr rickards worrys are only just beginning.....

**Steam** · 1st March 2007, 21:11

Originally Posted by 98tls

... reckons Mr rickards worrys are only just beginning.....

Howja mean? Like, they will get no respect and be universally despised wherever he goes?

**98tls** · 1st March 2007, 21:14

Yea that to..............

**TONO** · 1st March 2007, 21:45

Originally Posted by 98tls

After just watching the news and seeing rickards wife doing the tearful woe is me shit outside the court..........what a crock of shit.........lets not forget the bitch went to the trouble of trying to coach her own family about what to say in court...........

It was Shipton's wife, get it right.

**98tls** · 1st March 2007, 21:49

Originally Posted by WeeStromer

It was Shipton's wife, get it right.

yea yea..........try reading all the posts........your a bit behind the times............

**Patrick** · 1st March 2007, 23:50

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

Obviously the site Police intend to stick by Rickards side regardless.

Have the balls to admit it fellas, the Louise case smelt real bad.

The Louise case smelt REAL bad... This one didn't though... I intend to stick by him? Pffttt... His career is stuffed, the other two are locked up already...

**scumdog** · 2nd March 2007, 00:02

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

Obviously the site Police intend to stick by Rickards side regardless.

Have the balls to admit it fellas, the Louise case smelt real bad.

"OBVIOUSLY"?, "obviously"?
Where did you get the 'obviously'?
Gotta be a troll, right? to see if any 'site Police' support Rickards?

Well don't hang by the ball-bag waiting for a supporter to post, it might be a long and painful wait.

**SixPackBack** · 2nd March 2007, 05:40

Originally Posted by scumdog

"OBVIOUSLY"?, "obviously"?
Where did you get the 'obviously'?
Gotta be a troll, right? to see if any 'site Police' support Rickards?

Well don't hang by the ball-bag waiting for a supporter to post, it might be a long and painful wait.

Much like myself scumdog it looks like you have not read all the posts. Look here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...2&postcount=80

**scumdog** · 2nd March 2007, 07:22

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

Much like myself scumdog it looks like you have not read all the posts. Look here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...2&postcount=80

Oh, I had read that post alright - but again like you I couldn't resist putting the slipper in and doing a bit of trolling of my own!!

**Guitana** · 2nd March 2007, 08:09

Well I don't know about you guys but I can't remember what I did last month let alone 20 years ago, with enough accuracy to convict someone of a crime!
If these women had come forward ten years ago it may have been a different story! If Rickards had been involved I don't think he will get off completely the ramifications of this case will unravel his career and no doubt have caused irrepairable damage to his reputation as a trusted member of the community! These people were judged by a Jury of their peers and found not guilty end of story that's the justice system you don't like it move to Iraq

**Paul in NZ** · 2nd March 2007, 08:28

Hold on guys....

We will all make our minds up on this case no doubt... I also have no doubt in my mind (and i believe Clint R feels the same way based on his comments) that the NZ Police never believed that a guilty verdict would be returned in this case. Possibly an 80/20 chance in the previous one.

So why bring the case at all? It cost an obscene amount of money and at some time, someone must have asked if it was worth it?

No matter the outcome, this has effectively stopped Clint R's bid for the top job in the NZ Police. Is that important? Well someone was willing to spend a lot of our money to make sure that didn't happen. Nothing to do with him being Maori either.

I don't believe that it was a political decision - I'd like to believe it was a moral one. My own limited experience is that our Police force went through a morally rocky period a few years back. In fact the whole country did before the big sharemarket crash and I have been at events with off duty officers where things were said and done that I know the good guys were very uncomfortable with. Personally - I think this is the best possble outcome for everyone except the complainents who were to some degree sacrificed for the greater good. They were no worse than the corporate excesses of the time but it was behaviour the Police should not have been tolerating in their ranks.

Under the circumstances of these events, rape is a VERY difficult crime to prove. Something like 5% of the reported rapes result in a conviction. With such a long delay and no objective 'evidence' it was always going to be a my word against his deal... Hard place to win from and for a very good reason.

The law is not always just but in this case the law has extracted as much justice as it can. Well done NZ Police.

**s8306** · 2nd March 2007, 08:36

Originally Posted by Guitana

Well I don't know about you guys but I can't remember what I did last month let alone 20 years ago, with enough accuracy to convict someone of a crime!
If these women had come forward ten years ago it may have been a different story! If Rickards had been involved I don't think he will get off completely the ramifications of this case will unravel his career and no doubt have caused irrepairable damage to his reputation as a trusted member of the community! These people were judged by a Jury of their peers and found not guilty end of story that's the justice system you don't like it move to Iraq

At least in Iraq you could shoot these three cunts and have a better than average chance of getting away with it.

**Guitana** · 2nd March 2007, 08:50

Originally Posted by s8306

At least in Iraq you could shoot these three cunts and have a better than average chance of getting away with it.

Point taken Abdul Abbu Akhbar!!!

**Sniper** · 2nd March 2007, 08:51

The way all the righteous C$#ts on here put it. They are fucked whether they be guilty or not. You think they will ever be allowed to forget about it and carry on with their lives.........

Originally Posted by s8306

At least in Iraq you could shoot these three cunts and have a better than average chance of getting away with it.

Sweet Jesus you are touching on a rather itchy subject.... Good luck

**Scouse** · 2nd March 2007, 09:07

Originally Posted by terbang

That is it. And now I see Rickard on TV crowing about going back to his old job and bla bla bla about those that investigated him. Jeez if he does then we will have a known (not convicted) rapist running our police force..

Pffft what a joke...

i think the main reason rickards wants his old job back is so that he can make life a misery for those that dared to investigate and charge him