Rickards has been told to turn up to work on Monday, or don't come back!
Sounds like his superiors ain't too much in favour of him.
World's fastest Cook Islander
Rickards has been told to turn up to work on Monday, or don't come back!
Sounds like his superiors ain't too much in favour of him.
HIROSHIMA SCREAMER
All depends if you were speeding with their dick in your arse!!!Originally Posted by MD
NEVER LET THE TRUTH GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD STORY!
Immature and proud of it.
Read the entire saga, not just this thread, then say it has nothing to do with the Police.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
Immature and proud of it.
An absolutely cynical manipulation that all of NZ has seen through.
Wrong on many levels, but typical of your half-witted bosses.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
Salted Pork
The Police or people who are or were members of the police?
Its all to do with people, their actions and or inactions. The organisation they work(ed) for has nothing to do with causing them to behave in a particular way, it comes down to the personal choices made by an individual.
Weekend cruiser
Admirable sentiments - BUT - the legal system is not working as I would want it to - what I want to know is;
Who are the pious, self righteous, dopey bastards (they will be men by the way) who decided to go with the complainant and try to build a case? The Crown Prosecutor I presume? Did these people not weigh up the evidence? Did they not weigh up the costs?
It seems that one word from a woman "rape?" and the whole legal system swings into action - millions of our dollars are spent, the defendants pay their own way, are rooted out of their job and black listed for life regardless of the verdict. The complainant gets free unlimited legal aid, ongoing sympathetic TV coverage (during the trial too), if possible with a few tears to make us red-blooded men rise up in protective rage!
From what I understand of these things, provided the complaint has been made "in good faith" there is no provision to sue for damages! How convenient and utterly sexist.
And to cap it off, after the verdict, the complainant and various 'others' keep on at them them in public - I thought this was called "contempt of court" and was a jailing offence? Easily proven - been on TVNZ night after night in glorious colour - but our men in blue are utterly gutless when reverse prosecuting (with some justification).
Go read "A City Possessed" - the Chch Civic Creche Case if you want a clearer picture of our legal system and our police - an awesome and scary book. And then if you want to really get paranoid, read up on the Salem Witch Hunts - the parallels are clear and are happening today.
Don't get me wrong, if a case can be made, cut their balls off - otherwise, shut the fuck up - especially after 20 years.
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Salted Pork
Yep, it would have been much better if they had formed the line with 6'6", 120kg, shaven headed cops with tattooed arms.
At least then there would have been an event worthy of headline news.
As it was the only thing that made it interesting was the whacko making a spectacle of herself by choosing that particular moment to want to make a complaint of sexual abuse.
Easily wound up!!
By the time this/these cases had become public knowledge the Police had no choice but to prosecute.... imagine the shit storm if they'd said "insufficient evidence to secure a conviction". As I've said before though, the prosecution team also had knowledge of all the complaints, the juries were denied that info.
I beleive that the definition of what constitues "rape" has moved significantly over the past 20-30 years. While I strongly disapprove of what these uniformed Police Officers did with a teenage girl, I suspect that none of these guys considered what they were doing was rape.
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Forum whore
I'm not convinced that the alternate (male coppers, women striking them, women getting arrested, potential riot) would have been a better solution. Might be wrong on many levels, but it was right on just as many levels.
Loud and Uncouth
Get back under your bridge, troll.
Winding up drongos, foil hat wearers and over sensitive KBers for over 14,000 posts...........
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Forum whore
Troll or not, it's a mostly fair comment... I can't see what a better alternative would have been? Maybe locking up a bunch of overly dramatic women when things turned nasty? Sure they might not have turned nasty, but the pictures/video I saw didn't look like a bunch of rational people having a quiet protest. I feel that whoever organised that police line really had very few options, and probably did the protestors a favour.
The Loose Goose
I must confess I did wonder about the authenticity of the complaint after hearing that comment. I don't think any of the three men qualify as being lily-white, but if they had all been builders or something other than police officers, I doubt the outcry over the incidents (whether they are true or not) would have been as loud.
A guy I went to school with - and who I always thought was a decent guy - was accused of rape by the teenage friend of his daughter. He was convicted and spent about two years in jail, all the while fighting to clear his name and protesting his innocence. Suddenly the girl tells someone that he never raped her, she was just pissed off at him because of something he did that she didn't like and cried rape to get back at him. THAT kind of behaviour is unforgiveable and he and his family will never regain the years he was in prison.
I think it must be incredibly hard for a genuine rape victim to come forward and make a complaint and any false or vindictive claims (ie, ones where they had consensual sex but then the woman says she was raped) make it even harder for rapists to be convicted. And I must confess, there is no way I would wait 20 years to speak out if I were in her shoes. Without physical evidence to back it up, it often makes it almost impossible for a man to prove he didn't rape someone.
I agree with Clockwork too - when we think of rape nowadays, it's a violent crime, usually carried out by a stranger. Back in the 1980s there was a different social climate and women may have been coerced into having sex even if they didn't really want to. Today, those same woman may feel strongly enough about it to lay a complaint of rape. And although I am still dumbfounded over the lawyer's statement that everyone has been involved in group sex (I'm still waiting to find someone who admits it!), the truth probably lies somewhere between rape and consensual sex.
I don't like Rickards though, and I doubt he would get much respect if he were to continue with his career.
Yes, I am pedantic about spelling and grammar so get used to it!
Forum whore
* Sticks his hand up*...........dissapointing episode in so many ways, apart from the umbrella that was kinda funny
Immature and proud of it.
You mean apart from the fact that she did not raise the matter at all until approached by the Police?
It was the Police who found her ph. number in Shiptons notebook.
Doesn't sound like an attention seeker to me.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
Immature and proud of it.
No. Just the usual mix of staff on duty.
Will we now see gay cops at the Hero parade?
Asian cops at the Chinese New Year celebrations?
The bind moggles.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
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