GT250R vs CBR250RR pre 100 acceleration

[McJim]

The advantage of the 2 smoker rebuild is that you can do it at home yourself - just the cost of parts.

No valves to fidle with - we won't be selling the RG150 even after we've both moved to bigger bikes coz it's so much fun, cheap to run, reliable and easy to maintain.

They race RG150s against CBR250RRs in streetstock I believe - and I don't think their performance is embarrassing either - my VTR250 kills hyosungs for top end and from a standing start and the RG150 makes the VTR look shabby (with the same rider therefore it's the bike that makes the difference)

The difference between a slow 250 and a fast 250 0-100 isn't going to be to noticeable unless you're racing where 0.5 seconds is a lot but for commuting and evening/weekend riding - get something that's comfortable. I regret getting the VTR coz it's too uncomfortable - the Hyosung would have fitted me better.

Only 2 more months to go.

[hazzy]

trust me mate...four strokers can be just as much of a nightmare. Rebuilds cost much more for four than for two strokers.

Like i mentioned earlier...make sure you check them thoroughly and get one that has a decent service history. My zxr was my first bike and i got burned. If i knew what i know now - i wouldve seen all the signs that told me to look elsewhere. I was after a bargain at the time but with hindsight, it would've been better for me to have spent more initially and got something with less km's and something that someone had actually serviced!!

ok end of rant

I think ill be getting this 1993 cbr250rr with 13,000km from a local dealer, i'll get it checked out by someone that knows what their doing and a service history

[Mr. Peanut]

That's 930km a year.

Yeah.

Right.

Don't even tolerate that bullshit, it's more likely got 60000km on it and you should pay accordingly. Go by condition and ignore Km entirely.

[hurricane_r]

I already did the 'scientific research.' For a year and one day, while I had the Spada, any time I went up against a 4cyl 250, it was the same result 90% of the time.

cbr250r, cbr250rr, fzr250, zxr250, will all beat a spada,

, infact until u said spada, i didnt know wat it is, i done research and its not even in the list of fastest 250's anywhere,,,

hey hxc, u sure they where even nailing the gas?, or is spada so slow it seems ur only just pulling away, giving the illusion that the other guy is going for it?,.

[KLOWN]

from what I understand you don't need fairing to get wof just keep the bike until you go up in license or get a 400cc not worth droping 6 grand on a 250 you'll have for less than a yer. Also 2 strokes are good bikes I don't know where everyone gets these ideas that they trouble and hassle. 2 strokes go hard and are reliable if you look after them.

[Switch]

That's 930km a year.

Yeah.

Right.

Don't even tolerate that bullshit, it's more likely got 60000km on it and you should pay accordingly. Go by condition and ignore Km entirely.

DODGY!

[N4CR]

go hump a frog woman!!!!


rather have a hyosung than a frickin ghey honda!!!!!

they're both about as crap and fanatically g4y as each other, just get a zxr c.

[N4CR]

the difference between a slow 250 and a fast 250 0-100 isn't going to be to noticeable unless you're racing

uhh.... yes it is try overtaking and dragging they just disappear into your lights like the 10r against 250's but to a lesser extent.. rather hilarious best one is when the hyf4gs would try race me on the motorway on the zxr250 it would smoke them big time. it's like a **** canned civic vs a litre bike.

[Brett]

HXC - you really rate the dirty old spada dont ya?

Hazzy - Inline 4 vs a V twin any day with regard to 250's. None of the twins will touch a zxr or CBR 250rr above say 30kph. These dudes who reckon they will clearly have minimal 250 knowledge/experience. They may be older, but they are faster, more agile and more fun. However, each to their own, and I would not want to try and change anyone from what they like. Personally, I would get a ZXR250c anytime. Awesome little machines.

[BarBender]

I'd owned a Hyosung for 6 months and rode a loaner CBR250RR for 4 months..

The Hyosung for price of a new bike and looks - esp if you're a bigger than average rider.
The CBR if its rip shit & bust and speed and handling are you're thing.

My personal preference was the CBR. Probably the best 4 months on a bike I can remember!!!

[KLOWN]

if your cramped on a cbr get a zxr they have more room

[Speedracer]

cbr250s are the best 250s I have ridden for handling. I haven't ridden a lot of 250s though.

But I'm finding mine is almost as unreliable as a 2 stroke. I put about 1000km on it between the engine doing something strange. First off I bought a cheap bike that got me 1000km home before the lack of oil from the previous owner caught up with it. The next one holed a piston??, and this time it's the gear box. The two engines involved both had 25,000km on the clock.

Plus you can't buy parts from honda like bearing shells and headgaskets anymore, but mine is the 87 model, so you might be ok if you get an rr.

I read somewhere than cbr250s get 100,000kms with nearly no maintenance... all I can say is thats not my experience!

I'm only not getting rid of it cos it owes me too much, it is a real good ride when it goes and I have a ton of spares now.

And although the CBR is a bit highly geared in first, once it's warmed up and hits 10,000rpm, you leave everything else behind.

[Pancakes]

The IL4 anyday, you can go faster than them if they aren't trying to go fast but thats not what we're talking about a? Two bikes of equal capacity. The 4 is far better balanced and might redline at 14,000 not 10,000 so will make more power and accelerate faster. The Hyosungs are really poor breathers (watch the for sale section, I'll have that sorted soon) so are roughly the same as the vtr's I've been on/lined up with but they get to use higher revs and carry on to higher speeds.

The real thing that I don't get is;

Whats with the "Fastest 250" threads if you want to go fast you need more power comparitive to whatever your fat ass weighs. Get a bigger bike. Sheesh, 250 is frick all and modding just stresses parts even more, power / stroke or more revs (or both) will show you all the weak points in your bikes design. Really kids. Get bigger bikes, bike that I've had a reasonable amount of time on (only transport for 4 months) that I enjoyed the most was a VFR400R / NC30. I'd get one in a blink. Still nice and light feeling too. Probably a bit outdated now.

[Mr. Peanut]

But I'm finding mine is almost as unreliable as a 2 stroke. I put about 1000km on it between the engine doing something strange. First off I bought a cheap bike that got me 1000km home before the lack of oil from the previous owner caught up with it. The next one holed a piston??, and this time it's the gear box. The two engines involved both had 25,000km on the clock.

That's funny, cause I haven't had one problem with mine. I have half the carbs and no valves.

Don't have to worry about oil changes. Starts first kick every time.

[vtec]

I've started racing 600 supersport this year, and I'm reasonably quick, but I still love riding the CBR250RR, it still seems fast to me, and is definitely heaps of fun even with the crap tyres I've got on it at the moment. I raced one in the VMCC streetstock series and cleaned up on it, the only bike that beat me fair was a ZXR250c with a crazy man on it (read: Texmo). I lost one race to an RG150 aswell, cause it was my first ever race in the rain, and I was crapping my panties, but got over it the next time I raced in the wet and cleaned up again.

The CBR250RR rules. If I could never have another bike I would still be happy with it.

With regards to reliability? My first CBR250RR I got with 10,000k's on it for $5g from a dealer with a warrantee, did the oil changes and normal maintenance, rode it for 3 years, raced it for a whole season, and sold it privately for $5g with 35,000k's.

The second one, I had for road use while the other one was set up for the track is now my only road bike, got with about 30,000k's, fresh import, needed a bit of work to get it up to scratch again, cause it looked like it hadn't been used in years, cleaned the carbs, put a new chain on, a few other things too, now it's running great. And in all my time I've never had an engine or gearbox or suspension fault on any of them. I couriered on it all day today, and had a blast, they are bloody fast.

I started my riding with an ex racing Pepsi Replica Suzuki RGV250, yeah it was fast, but it was so unreliable I was scared to kick the starter just in case something was wrong. Spent over $1000 just on engine work to keep it going for 10,000k's. I don't think I will ever own another two stroke unless I'm rich enough to have a brand new one, but they don't really make good two strokers any more.

If you don't care about progressing yourself as a skilled rider/racer then by all means go for a vtwin 250. But don't ever try and tell me that they are faster to any speed. In the streetstock racing on the launch, I could get my front wheel just lifting off the ground for the whole of first gear all the way up to 70k/hr, a vtwin won't ever be in front if the IL4 has a skilled rider on it. Maybe if they both let the clutch out at 4000rpm, then the Vtwin might handle that better, but that's not what the IL4 is designed for. If you are going to launch it properly, you have to slip the clutch from about 14,000 and not let it drop below 11,000rpm.

P.S. RPM are indicated only, and redline is an 'indicated 19,000rpm'... Sweet.

P.P.S The vtwins have about half the horsepower of the IL4's, remarkably disappointing. For commuting I would settle for a VTR250, or ZZR250 but the hyosungs are a very average bike that they've prettied up,
a bit like this: http://www.kawasaki.co.nz/kawasaki_c...250F7F&do=list
I'm embarrassed that Kawasaki would put shiny flames on an 80's bike and try to pass it off as new. Yet my girlfriend thought it was hot. Do not be fooled. Same story with the hyosungs, just because they have nice fairings does not make them a good bike. Still the GPX has a claimed 38ps which is pretty decent and at 138kg's dry, that might be alright, but I won't know till I ride it.

http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/hyo...t_250_2005.php
27hp, top speed 140k/hr... not good. Better off with an FXR150.