Unlawful violation

[ManDownUnder]

Back on track... and

BUMP

[Skyryder]

I am confused by the red rep with the nice comment for an innocuos post I received this am. Can anyone explain?

It take two people to have an intelligent conversation. Red reps are from those can not not have one. Put more bluntly you have pissed someone off with logic and they do not have the brains to respond with an opposing point of view in a like manner.

Good posts Candor, gutsy.

Skyryder

[Skyryder]

Well it’s amazin aint it… We all hate rapists… and lets face it, of all the crimes it’s right up there at the top of things to hate. Maybe it’s just because I’m really tired at the moment but frankly I’m about sick of people and their general nastiness and violence to other people. Weirdly – I’m often told I’m a rude person (ie I’m a bit intense for some folks) and I’ve often wondered just how many friendships I’ve lost due to what I consider are peoples poor moral standards. (in particular cheating on your partner when she is also a friend of mine etc). Yet I'm sure some people would consider me a pervert?

I dunno – we can’t talk about sex properly ‘cos it upsets people, we won’t talk about rape because it’s taboo. Ditto domestic violence, incest, drugs etc etc. Even acts of generosity on this site get branded as socialist, bleeding heart panisness…

I’m not even going to bother getting wound up about people that take advantage of my generous nature. But I'm not changing just because most people are prize pricks.

Frankly – if it was optional I’d divorce humanity – we are a pack of c**ts really and the longer i live the less I want to do with it.

Know how you feel. Won't go into my details. But there's not a man or woman here on KB who would not come to your aid if need be. Lifes a bitch at times but there is always some one worse off. Knowing that it, then becomes a beach.

Skyryder

[Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)]

I think you have hit the nail on the head Chris...good on ya for saying it.

A friend of mine split with Wife, not his choice, Wife accused him of violating his kid, not prooved and he still has not seen his kids in 7 years and they all live in Devonport....it is the cost of legal guys that prohibits him......sad

That is one thing that really gives me the shits big time. Zero tolerance for that.

Zero tolerace for parents using kids in those situations anyway.

[Grahameeboy]

That is one thing that really gives me the shits big time. Zero tolerance for that.

Zero tolerace for parents using kids in those situations anyway.

Tell me about it.............

[ManDownUnder]

Zero tolerance for those manipulating others for sexual gratification too... mutual fun is fine (of course) but anything one sided...

IT'S GONAD REMOVAL TIME!

[ManDownUnder]

Look... the chances are very good there are upwards of 10 women on here affected, and quite likely some of the men as well.

As with anything like this... there's always a MAJOR element of:
"I'm alone in this"
"No one wants to be burdened"
"I don't want to burden people"
"I'm not important enough"
"It'll just go away"
"I'm not worth it... I'm not worth anything"

To those affected I simply say this: Stand strong and let support find you. Find someone you totally trust and simply let them be there for you.

Take steps... small ones are fine.

Here's my personal view on it. We're a family - of sorts... and building on that concept - if I ever heard of anyone doing something to hurt my brothers or sisters I'd be there in a flash.

This shite is entirely unnacceptable and can never be condoned. I don't care if you said yes to start with (maybe as a bit of fun) then changed your mind, or if the 0offender simply forced themselves on you against your will.

You have the ultimate control over your own destiny. Your body is yours alone and NO-ONE is enttiled to assume anything of it without your express agreement... without coersion, manipulation, expectation, marital status or otherwise.

That body is YOUR temple... and yours alone. Never be fooled about that, and never be talked out of it. Your husband/wife may be climbing the walls in rage, frustration, ... whatever. But in the end you are ALWAYS entitled to say no.

"Why not" is going to be the next question ... "I'm not in the mood" or "I don't feel like it" are quite sufficient.

End of story as far as I'm concerned. It takes a bit for me to lose my faith in a person, but anyone coercing or forcing themselves onto someone else sexually... that'll do it in a heartbeat.

To anyone/everyone victim to this terrible situation. Kia Kaha... to you all.

Stand tall and stand strong. You are entitled to. If you need help to do so, there are a lot of good people out there that would be honoured to help..

Kia Kaha

[slowpoke]

But there's not a man or woman here on KB who would not come to your aid if need be.

Skyryder

Sorry mate but much as I would like it to be true that's just not the case.

We are but a cross section of society who happen to have something in common, so when it comes to people and personality's there's everything here from the sublime to the ridiculous. Whilst there are angels amongst us there are also people who would do evil against us.

My naive wish for the day? That life dealt people what they deserve...but unfortunately terrible things happen to good people and some scum seem almost blessed by good fortune. That's life, sometimes it's shitty, unforgiving and totally merciless but hopefully there'll be some glorious moments mixed in along the way...hopefully....

I'm suprised no-one has mentioned this: if most of us know (probably unwittingly) someone who has been raped/violated...then there is also a reasonable chance that we know a rapist.

How's that for an ugly thought?

Sad, offensive, disturbing, enraging it may be....but probably true.

Big ups to all those victims who are brave enough to come forward, you've shown more guts in those first moments of revelation than many people will have to show in a lifetime.

[ManDownUnder]

I'm suprised no-one has mentioned this: if most of us know (probably unwittingly) someone who has been raped/violated...then there is also a reasonable chance that we know a rapist.

How's that for an ugly thought?

Sad, offensive, disturbing, enraging it may be....but probably true.

Big ups to all those victims who are brave enough to come forward, you've shown more guts in those first moments of revelation than many people will have to show in a lifetime.

Sorry I cut some of it... brilliant post... yes yes and yes. That bit you put in bold... scary but probably true. Hence my desire to find a voice... to let them know what a disgusting, despicable, pathetic, act they have involved themselves in...

Friends or family... I don't care. I will never condone those actions no matter who the offender is.

I am aware there are always two sides to every story, and thesde stories often get complicated very quickly... but the bottom line for me is this - if the victim said no... the offender should have listened.