Respect the Cops? WHY!

[SixPackBack]

Not true this year - no longer record tickets or even traffic time on time sheets, can't tell you how many tickets I've written out this last 8-10 months (not many) or how many for speed yet nobody has taken me to task about my lack of supposed 'quota'.

But never let facts ruin urban myth and get in the way of a good story.......

So we can assume up until 2007 that my 'story' that has been so vehemently denied in the past [by both the pollies and to police brass] is correct.

That is good news and a step in the right direction.

[marty]

, patrol cars driving past people tailgating,

so is a car following another at 100km/h at say, 30 metres, too close?

[Grahameeboy]

The General Duties side of the New Zealand Police is pretty good, we are swamped with work and at times drowning in it due to staffing and resources but we definatley have very good investigators and frontline officers and we have a good resolution rate of crime which has steadily improved since 01-03.

The traffic side of Police is a government directive of madnatory SAP hours. If someone punches you in the head you dont blame their arm you blame the head which is controlling the arm.

You can go on at the traffic Police all you like but its not going to change anything because it is a government directive. You can say the cops should revolt against these hard policies but we arent allowed to. It's written into law that we cant protest and we are one of the only police forces in the world where we are not consulted on Police directives by government. Its elected office holders who often have limited or no Police experience who make the calls on what Police and other government agencies do.

As far as the rape allegations, I dont think you can tar the whole Police Force with the dirty rape brush. Some of these offences that were alleged to happen occured when i was about 6 years old, I have never seen or heard of this "sick rape culture" till the media brought it out.

I and all of the cops i know are disgusted by these mens behaviour and how it has tarred us all. This is why you get the reaction you do from serving officers because they hate being related to something they have never seen or participated in.

I know we have had a thrashing in the media but dont belive everything you read or see, a lot of it is rubbish. I do know they will twist things that you read and see from being at a jobs where the media was present and knew what really occured and then seeing how they represented in on TV was sensational, contrived and misleading.

Good post matey.....................

[scumdog]

The system is totally fucked and should be privatised as should councils and many other Government departments. [/FONT]

Privatisation? You woldn't know you were born if privatisation came in.

110+ and you would get a ticket EVERY TIME, nil, nada, none, zilch discretion EVER.

And every other offence would be the same - and they would target the $$$$ offences, not the low $ 'safety' ones.

i.e. Why waste time with a $80 speeding ticket when issuing $200 tickets for obscured number plates makes more money (just have a look how many plates are dirty or obscured by bull-bars, tow-bars etc).

[SixPackBack]

Privatisation? You woldn't know you were born if privatisation came in.

110+ and you would get a ticket EVERY TIME, nil, nada, none, zilch discretion EVER.

And every other offence would be the same - and they would target the $$$$ offences, not the low $ 'safety' ones.

i.e. Why waste time with a $80 speeding ticket when issuing $200 tickets for obscured number plates makes more money (just have a look how many plates are dirty or obscured by bull-bars, tow-bars etc).

Policing should not be about 'revenue collection'. If the directive was to keep solve crimes instead of targeting mobile cash cows resources could be taken away from highway patrol and given to the real coppers. Hell! they could clean up South Auckland before it becomes a war zone.
If councils were privatised a simple building permit could be dealt with within a week instead of disappearing into a black hole for months.
Bring back Rogernomics, privatise the fucken lot.

[spudchucka]

The system is totally fucked and should be privatised

Great idea, that way we'd be able to negotiate a commission on all tickets issued, you know, sort of like a performance incentive. It'd be a bigger company than Telecom and probably more corrupt too. Who would be CEO?

[SixPackBack]

Great idea, that way we'd be able to negotiate a commission on all tickets issued, you know, sort of like a performance incentive. It'd be a bigger company than Telecom and probably more corrupt too. Who would be CEO?

What more bent than the current system that gave a sexual predator the top job, that knew exactly the potential implications of its actions but continued anyway?
The present system is corrupt spud, it needs releasing from the pollies and some of your fucked up top brass.

[spudchucka]

Its not perfect, no one says it is but its a hell of a lot better than it was in the 80's. Privatising the police would fuck things beyond belief, getting the politicians noses out of the day to day running of the police would be a welcome change.

[The_Dover]

The General Duties side of the New Zealand Police is pretty good, we are swamped with work and at times drowning in it due to staffing and resources but we definatley have very good investigators and frontline officers and we have a good resolution rate of crime which has steadily improved since 01-03.

What statistics are you using to justify this quote?

If GD is so swamped then why are there so many traffic officers?

[The_Dover]

How contradictory.

Resolution rates are improving but we need to get on top of the problems that are swamping this country?

What crimes are being resolved? Who broke the speed limit?

Nice one Dyna, internal police propaganda. Secret squirrel bullshit.

[Mr Merde]

1. ...... We also need to be able to do our jobs and stop having political interference.

I would have no problem with this but unfortunately it is a pipe dream to think that it would ever happen.

When senior positions are a political appointment there is a filter down effect.

When the government (any government) needs to distract the populace, they bring up the always sensitive subject of crime.

When the number of people employed to control the population internally far exceed the number of of persons charged with defending the country from foriegn threats, there is a problem.

Whilst NZ is not there yet it is close. check out http://www.nzdf.mil.nz/at-a-glance/p...omposition.htm

11,000 members of the total armed forces and 8,000 plus police

My sympathies are with those of you who just wish to get on with a job but even in Roman times the police force of the time the Praetorian Guard were ruled by their political masters.

As an aside.

Through my interset in history I find it very interesting that all the so called great civilisations have waned as the forces employed to control their populations have waxed.

Are we ready foir the collapse?

[The_Dover]

Resolution rates are vastly improving however crime is also on the rise. i.e we are catching more crims but there are more crims around.

Yeah, all those pesky speeders eh?

[spudchucka]

Nope, you have a bit of a closed mind.

Ya think?

I don't know why you're wasting your time on that idiot.

[The_Dover]

Ya think?

I don't know why you're wasting your time on that idiot.

ha ha, if your attitude is representative of the good cops then I can see why the force is so fucked!

[scumdog]

What statistics are you using to justify this quote?

If GD is so swamped then why are there so many traffic officers?

Like in the days of MOT there WEREN'T so many traffic officers???????

Based on your above comment you would be ecstatic if the traffic cops dressed in a different uniform, drove cars painted in another colour and only did traffic - that way you could see that 'real' cops weren't being 'wasted' doing traffic stuff.

Kinda like re-inventing the wheel eh? good one!!!

And then problem of the GDB being swamped would be solved how?????

Nice troll sunshine, it WAS a troll? right? right??