Lane-Splitting offence

[andy1]

Chainsaw i totally agree

mongooseeeey tottally disagree with ya dude

As people have said most cops cant be bothered!
And my best mate is a cop too so.

Let it slide by.

I gotta say tho, WHY dont you block your number plate?????

[Mongoose]

Chainsaw i totally agree

mongooseeeey tottally disagree with ya dude

As people have said most cops cant be bothered!
And my best mate is a cop too so.

Let it slide by.

I gotta say tho, WHY dont you block your number plate?????

All I can say to this is, take the gamble if you want, but remember all this advice to do nothing, who will come to your aid should it turn to custard? No bugger, there will be plenty of "SHIT, the bastards, never thought they would do that" etc, but you are the poor dude after paying the fine because no one else will help ya

[Zed]

...I gotta say tho, WHY dont you block your number plate?????

Hi Andy, I take it by "block your number plate" you mean to tape over it so it can't be read? Apparently many riders do this in South Africa according to a close source of mine.

The 1 & only reason I can think of for not doing this is that it is ILLEGAL, and if I was the cop who caught you I would throw the book at you!


Zed

[scumdog]

Chainsaw i totally agree

mongooseeeey tottally disagree with ya dude

As people have said most cops cant be bothered!
And my best mate is a cop too so.

Let it slide by.

I gotta say tho, WHY dont you block your number plate?????

Danger Danger Will Robinson, more bad advice

You don't HAVE to be facing a driving charge to be served a notice requiring you to identify the driver of your car at a specific time/place!!!!!!!!!!!

and it's a bit late for him to block his number-plate.

and whose going to help pay the fine when he goes to court for failing to supply details?

[Posh Tourer :P]

I'm a fan of going in somewhere to explain your situation. It is harder for people to get pissed off at you if you go in in person. If there is a way to talk to the cop who wrote you this letter, do so, go in, be nice and explain that you were riding, dont admit to anything, but he may be happy just to give you a lecture, or even just say "well, actually we are obliged to send this letter, i thought it was silly..."

[andy1]

blocking ur number - i mean put ur WOF slightly over one number. Ive actually been pulled over (only because i matched a description of a robbery in the Ellerslie area) As they were writing my details they said my last letter was R but actually it was B

Just something you could try.

[scumdog]

cam't beat 20-20 hindsight eh people????

[R6_kid:Me]

hey guys,
thanks for all the ideas and information. Called the guy (the cop) today and it turns out he was driving home from work when he saw me, hence no action at the time - anyway he's a dog handler not a patrol officer. Basically he judged what i was doing as dangerous and acted as he saw fit. I got off with a warning after a short lecture. When asked why i was doing it, i commented on aucklands rather crap weather during that week and he seemed to sympathize , but otherwise was just a good guy making sure that i dont go killing myself in rushhour auckland traffic and causing yet another block up on our shitty motorways!!!
lucky one this time

[Mongoose]

hey guys,
thanks for all the ideas and information. Called the guy (the cop) today and it turns out he was driving home from work when he saw me, hence no action at the time - anyway he's a dog handler not a patrol officer. Basically he judged what i was doing as dangerous and acted as he saw fit. I got off with a warning after a short lecture. When asked why i was doing it, i commented on aucklands rather crap weather during that week and he seemed to sympathize , but otherwise was just a good guy making sure that i dont go killing myself in rushhour auckland traffic and causing yet another block up on our shitty motorways!!!
lucky one this time

Glad that is all it worked out to be gareth. A lecture costs you nothing but a bit of time, however in this case doing nothing may have cost you a sight more.

[marty]

if it is an infringement notice, the fine must be specified
a letter saying you have to identify the rider sounds weird - have you read it right?
what section of the transport act or traffic regs sets a 10 grand fine for not replying to a letter that is neither an infringement notice or a summons ?
it should state it on your letter.

for careless use, the burden is on the prosecution to prove your actions were not those of a careful and prudent driver. surely a motorcyclist can manoevre between lanes carefully and prudently. Plead not guilty, play the adjournment game, string it out for as long as you can and they will either lose the file or the cop will be transferred or their evidence (a witness) will not be available.

you have a right to remain silent. I would be interested to know what the statute reference is for demanding identity of a driver / rider if no proceedings have been commenced.

118.Owner or hirer to give information as to identity of driver or passenger— (1)If an enforcement officer has reasonable cause to believe that the driver of a vehicle has committed an offence while in charge of the vehicle, the officer may request the owner or hirer of the vehicle to give all information in his or her possession or obtainable by him or her which may lead to the identification and apprehension of the driver of the vehicle. (3)A request under subsection (1) or subsection (2) may be made orally or in writing and the owner or hirer (as the case may be) must comply with the request within 14 days. 52.Contravening notices, requirements, etc, given or imposed by enforcement officers— (1)A person commits an offence if the person— (c)Fails or refuses to comply with any lawful requirement, direction, notice, request, or prohibition given to or imposed on him or her under this Act by an enforcement officer or a dangerous goods enforcement officer; or (2)The maximum penalty on conviction for an offence against subsection (1) is a fine not exceeding $10,000.

[Mongoose]

Well done Marty, wonder how many still doubt the valued advice you and others gave now?

[marty]

probably only chainsaw and andy1.....

[spudchucka]

STandoverSCaremTacktics® ...

No, its the law. Section 118 Land Transport Act if you can be fecked looking it up.

[spudchucka]

yip i agree with Zed and Zapf. It was probably someone dobbing you in because they couldn't do it.

Didn't he already say it was an off duty dog handler that saw him??

[spudchucka]

Hi Andy, I take it by "block your number plate" you mean to tape over it so it can't be read? Apparently many riders do this in South Africa according to a close source of mine.

The 1 & only reason I can think of for not doing this is that it is ILLEGAL, and if I was the cop who caught you I would throw the book at you!


Zed

A personal favourite - no discretion for those cretins!!