Poll: Standard 650 class

**Tim 39** · 19th March 2007, 18:26

Just to get everyone's feelings on the proposed standard 650 class

**Hitcher** · 19th March 2007, 18:28

You should add a poll. That may help.

**Tim 39** · 19th March 2007, 18:31

Originally Posted by Hitcher

You should add a poll. That may help.

It's there now

**Two Smoker** · 19th March 2007, 19:38

I chose other, have kept out of this a bit, but will whack in 2 cents... Best option leave it, dont change the rules. BUT add a production based 650 class within the F3 class. Makes it more accessible...

**Tim 39** · 19th March 2007, 19:43

Originally Posted by Two Smoker

I chose other, have kept out of this a bit, but will whack in 2 cents... Best option leave it, dont change the rules. BUT add a production based 650 class within the F3 class. Makes it more accessible...

oops yea i was meant to say that as part of the production 650 option, it should say that the production 650 class runs as a seperately scored class, inside the existing F3.
sorry am i able to change what the poll says? (I'm a touch computer illiterate at times)
thanks

**White trash** · 19th March 2007, 19:50

I like the idea of mostly stock. Changing a muffler makes it more affordable as stock ones are fricken expensive should you bin. Also, changing the internals of the forks, and the rear shock makes the bikes a lot safer as SV650s for example have pretty crap suspension as stock.

Other than that, chuck race tyres at them, your choice of brake pads (retain stock calliper and disc size and away ya go. Mint class.

**Tim 39** · 19th March 2007, 20:00

Originally Posted by White trash

I like the idea of mostly stock. Changing a muffler makes it more affordable as stock ones are fricken expensive should you bin. Also, changing the internals of the forks, and the rear shock makes the bikes a lot safer as SV650s for example have pretty crap suspension as stock.

Other than that, chuck race tyres at them, your choice of brake pads (retain stock calliper and disc size and away ya go. Mint class.

yea thats my opinion too, I thought if everyone had that opinion then why isnt it running already!

**Keystone19** · 19th March 2007, 20:01

It's a done deal as far as MNZ is concerned:

Just awaiting the proposed rules from MNZ Chief Steward Paul Stewart.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...9&postcount=19

**t3mp0r4ry nzr** · 19th March 2007, 20:36

my 2c. front fork emulators and spring upgrade and rear shock replacement should be the minimum for rider safety. rear can only replacement i agree with and brake pad upgrades would be good.

**DEATH_INC.** · 19th March 2007, 20:57

Why replace the rear shock? Are they not rebuildable/revalveable? Why not the same for the rear as the front.......would knock $1000 off the cost of building a competitive bike for a start.....
But otherwise the can, brake pads and suspension package seems good to me.

**Steve_R6R** · 20th March 2007, 00:12

I clicked "other" as a front fork upgrade option would be an idea.

Does anybody have an idea of a timeframe for these rule changes?

Will this have any effect on the Vic Club winter series or is it just for the nationals?

**Keystone19** · 20th March 2007, 00:28

As far as i understand it, MNZ plan to have this as a championship production class for 2008. Don't know what VMCC will do.

**SPman** · 20th March 2007, 17:07

I reckon, leave the standard suspension - fork oil only - if the standard suspension is crap - tough - ride around it! Everyone will then be in much the same boat.

Otherwise - rebuild suspension only, no replacement Ohlins rear shocks or anything.

**Tim 39** · 20th March 2007, 18:18

Originally Posted by SPman

I reckon, leave the standard suspension - fork oil only - if the standard suspension is crap - tough - ride around it! Everyone will then be in much the same boat.

Otherwise - rebuild suspension only, no replacement Ohlins rear shocks or anything.

they seemed to think that a suspension upgrade in the rear was the best option, as there were safety issues around the fade that the standard shocks could have towards the end of the races etc

**k14** · 21st March 2007, 10:00

Originally Posted by Tim 39

they seemed to think that a suspension upgrade in the rear was the best option, as there were safety issues around the fade that the standard shocks could have towards the end of the races etc

Well what they should probably do is approach a middle of the range rear shock manufacturer and get a good deal on a bulk purchase of shocks. Then sell them at cost (or even subsidised) to the field. Not sure how much a ohlins rear costs but if they get a slightly lesser brand with still a few adjustments they will again keep costs down and make it more affordable and safer for the racers.