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    Triumph Tiger 1050

    Ride Impression.

    The bit where I book a ride on someone else's $20,000 motorcycle.

    Crasherfromwayback makes no secret of working for Wellington Motorcycles, nor does he make any secret of the fact that he works there because it gives him easy access to two wheeled crack.

    Well he's started dealing crack now. Guess who rode the Tiger before me? Sels1. What a surprise. Not.

    If I'd had a spare twelve or thirteen thousand dollars in my pocket I would probably have gone home with a new bike.

    Let me tell you why.

    The bit where I launch without stalling.

    This is a tall motorcycle. Not XB12 tall, but getting there. Thankfully it isn't as tall as the previous model Tiger, purely thanks to the 17" wheels front and rear. Looking at diagrams in bike mags, you can see that the riding positions for the old and new model are as close as they could be without being the same bike.

    On the new Tiger however, I can get both toes on the ground, or one foot flat just by dropping a hip to one side. The Triumph dash is rather cool with its circles and unresolved triangles, and takes up position behind a screen that conspires to be about the same size as the old Tiger's while looking about a third of the size. The bars could do with being dropped about half an inch to be totally comfortable for me, but that's one of the great things about bikes with bars instead of clip ons is that you can just undo the clamps and rotate them back a bit.

    Man I'm a long way up, and the almost interminable wait (I a bit excited by the Tiger you see) while Sels puts his gloves on gives me time to check switch gear and mirrors and get used to being able to only get one foot on the ground.

    Come on Sels, I want to go! Sels graciously waves me off and I "launch", not stall, no bunny hop, just a wave of torque from idle and up.

    The bit where the world turns on its side.

    The first corner is the Basin Reserve. The new traffic lights there, designed to ease congestion caused by the bypass, mean I don't get to really fire into my first bend whilst astride the Tiger because of the congestion. That's cool though because I'm high enough up to see over the Basin Reserve fence and I see the traffic is a lot clearer on the Newtown side.

    Another two sets of lights and then "waahaay!", did I fall down, or did the road jump up at me? If I hadn't ridden that Aprilia Pegaso a couple of weeks ago, I wouldn't have been prepared for the altered reality that is 15 degrees of lean on a two wheeled Sky Tower.

    Commuting Nirvana, or how I learned to stop worrying and lanesplit at speed.

    Sels was right. The Tiger is an astonishingly good commuter bike. Dealing with the half a dozen sets of lights on the bypass showed that while the Tiger feels a little top heavy under 20 km/hr, it is perfectly controllable with a little bit of deft clutch and rear brake work, and will in fact fit through gaps my Zed won't because the bars and mirrors are above the mirrors of most light trucks and vans.

    The moment we hit the Motorway the effortless grunt combined with nimble handling meant treating other traffic with respect was just one of many options. Standing up and doing ballet moves was just silly, as was saluting the speed camera (eh Sels), but it is a bit of a laugh to have to duck for motorway overbridges while standing up.

    Suburban Ghost Riders, or one middle aged bloke shows another the race track of his teenage years.

    Newlands.

    Who'd a thunk it. Away from the manhole infested main drag, Newlands rises and falls, twists and turns, duck and dives, and ultimately loops back on itself with the frequency of an in situ larger intestine. Off camber camber, on camber, decreasing radius, all corners that could prove a little terrifying on a lesser bike, none of them daunted the mighty Tiger 1050. Sels local knowledge wasn't enough to unstick a nana riding an unfamiliar bike, such is the forgiving nature of the new Tiger.

    Screwed up a corner? Went in too hard, or didn't turn in soon enough? No problems sir. Have another stab at it. You can flow through Newlands backroads like snakes on a plane, or ham fistedly stab, slash, hack, bounce and thrust yourself in a lurching manner. It doesn't matter. You'll be just as quick, and that ENGINE will fix it all for you.

    Motion Camouflage, Cognitive Denial, ,and learning to do a rolling stoppie on someone else's $20,000 motorcycle.

    Those of you who know Newlands in Wellington will no doubt understand the following scenario.

    After looping our way through Newlands and Paparangi, Sels magically brought us back onto the Newlands main drag, heading for the Ngauranga Gorge.We stopped to debrief and both of us expressed our unrequited love for the Tiger 1050, and started the plan that involves hitmen and Insurance Policies.

    Back to reality.

    Sels needed to head to the Hutt (to ride a Honda - ewwwww) so we pulled out of the carpark we stopped in, and went straight into the lane that feeds Newlands traffic onto the Southbound Wellington Motorway. Just before this lane is an opportunity for those people who went up the Gorge looking for Upper Hutt to get back onto the Motorway.

    I pull out. Ignite the Triumph turbine (there can't be any pistons in there, surely?) and my brain goes, "bleargh, waa, waa, waa UGH, UGHAAAA", as the woman in the blue car on my right pulls out in front of me.

    Some say the following is a bad habit. I always rest two fingers on the front brake lever. Well thank whatever minor deity that was watching me today that I did. I was traveling at speed by the time she pulled out. My highly trained reflexes (gibbering panic) gave the lever a squeeze and then a bigger squeeze. The rear stepped out a bit, the forks compressed mightily and the radial brakes gripped like a 14 year old boy in a masturbatory frenzy. The back end lifted a little.

    Then she saw me and stopped and I flicked to the left and around the front of her car. How she could miss two of the world's largest production motorcycles approaching, headlights ablaze, riders in a near Viking Berserkergang mental state, aggressively taking possesion of each inch of tarmac, I'll never know.

    No drama apart from the minor sea sickness induced by the forks diving to sea level under heavy braking and then launching back into the clouds when released. Plus the glorious realisation of defeating the car gods once again.

    You meet the nicest people on a Triumph?

    No further dramas to report. A lovely ride around a gloriously beautiful Oriental Parade, through Roseneath and Haitaitai and back to Wellington Motorcycles.

    Who waved?

    One of a pair of motorcycle cops, half a dozen small children, a bloke on a Rocket III I'd seen earlier while on the Zed (he snobbed me! Doesn't he know Hinckley Triumph owes it all to Kawasaki's GPz900 engine?), and dare I say it, a couple of lovely lasses gushed at me at a crossing on Oriental Parade. I love how Motorcycle tanks hide the fact your fly is undone, and helmets hide baldness, carbuncles, grey facial hair, and eye bags I use to carry my shoes to work.

    The motorcycle everyone says they want, and are finally starting to buy.

    Upright seating positon.
    Weather Protection.
    Excellent ground clearance.
    Sporty Rubber.
    Engine response connected to your brain.
    Brakes that ripple tarmac.
    Nimble low speed handling.
    Plush ride with somehow firm controlled suspension.
    Tips on its ear in a nano second

    It's all there, and more. I didn't have the chance to play with the suspension for obvious reasons, though I would have loved the chance as I am sure you can trade some of the plush ride for a bit more vertical control.

    Crasherfromwayback warned me that the throttle response was a bit jerky because of the Fuel Injection needing a patch, and the chain being a bit loose. Can't say it bothered me.

    The Tiger is no longer a soft roader as many, many people have already said, but then how many of the old Tiger crossed the Sahara, or spent all weekend banging up and down the Motu Gorge road?

    If you've at least half a brain, but still want to go mental in the hills, carry a pillion sometimes, or tour New Zealand in comfort with minimal fuel stops, then DON'T BUY THIS BIKE! I WANT IT! FEKK OFF!

    Many, many thanks to Crasherfromwayback (Pete MacDonald) and Wellington Motorcycles for a very special hour, one Saturday morning. Thanks for the company Sels, and your insights, and the opportunity to follow the 1050's Dad around.
    Last edited by James Deuce; 14th April 2007 at 21:11.
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    Well that's 100% positive writeups for this bike. Great report. I have the older Tiger and loving it. I've just got back from a blat through the twisties in the hills and it was great. If your tall enough to ride a Tiger, go for it, I say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    Well he's started dealing crack now. Guess who rode the Tiger before me? Sels1. What a surprise. Not.
    Who me? whoda thought....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    If I'd had a spare twelve or thirteen thousand dollars in my pocket I would probably have gone home with a new bike.
    Yeah me too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    Standing up and doing ballet moves was just silly, as was saluting the speed camera (eh Sels)
    Just standing up for a stretch, Jim, honest! ha
    Glad to be able to show you a few new corners. And to demonstrate how Tigers old and new like a nice twisty road with hilly bits.

    As stated, I rode the 1050 Tiger just before Jim. and as the owner of an earlier model Tiger the difference is quite marked. The new model has a sharp modern design, is smaller, lighter and faster, as you would expect. While the older model handles well and corners well, the new one corners like it is on rails, it is so easy to ride. The sit up position is similar on both models, making for good visibility in traffic and easy touring. The seat height on the older one meant you had to be around 6ft or more to put your feet down easily (which made it a comfortable bike for taller riders) The new one has a lower seat - even Jim can ride it (sorry mate) but it still feels quite roomy. The 1050 motor is the same as the Sprint and Speed Triple, but has been retuned to give a lot of torque in the low and mid ranges so you can grab a handful and pull away in any gear. The older unit has a degree of off road ability, (with a 19in front wheel) but few will take them on anything worse than a gravel road or easy trail. The 1050 has 17in front and rear and makes no pretence of being anything other than a road bike. But one that would handle any surface - we didnt get the opportunity to test it on gravel by I suspect it would be as competent as any other road machine - or better.
    And yes, they have excellent brakes too, as Jim found out when a cager did a U turn in front of him.
    The only reservation I had was with the rear seat set-up. The older Tiger is an excellent 2-up machine with a large comfy rear seat. Add a topbox as fitted on my one and pillions feel very secure. I take a few passengers who are not regular motorcyclists (including my better half) and I am not sure how they would like the smaller, higher seat on the new machine. Oh dear....I will have to do another test ride, with a pillion.

    But all up, a very nice motorcycle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    Sels needed to head to the Hutt (to ride a Honda - ewwwww)
    I had a legitimate reason - Test a Honda this month and go into a draw to win a trip to Phillip Is with Arron Slight. Whats a bloke to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    Many, many thanks to Crasherfromwayback (Pete MacDonald) and Wellington Motorcycles for a very special hour, one Saturday morning. Thanks for the company Sels, and your insights, and the opportunity to follow the 1050's Dad around.
    Indeed - thanks CFWB (Pete) and Co. Thanks for the company Jim, and a most excellent write up.
    Experience......something you get just after you needed it

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    Quote Originally Posted by sels1 View Post
    Just standing up for a stretch, Jim,
    As opposed to a 'Stretch' standing up:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    As opposed to a 'Stretch' standing up:
    Looks like the cover of KR mag!

    So have you had a chance to ride it Dave?
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    Ah that answers my first question Dave - namely does it pick up the front as well as the Speed Triple.

    Damn. Take one week off from work and everyone else gets to ride the demos before me.

    I guess I'll be trudging over to WMCC to beg for a test too...

    Cheers for the writeup Jim. Confirms what I already thought. Another damn WMCC bike I'll test and kick myself for doing so as I'll just bloody want it and can't afford it.

    It'll be interesting to do my little mental comparo after having ridden the Ulysses with the lowered seat - which would be the bike I'd look at if I was buying in the market this bike sits in. Any opinions on that one Dave?

    I'd definitely agree with you regarding the commuting, having banged my mirrors a numbers of times of late (also there's still a bit of red miata on the exhaust pipe from some silly bitch talking on her cell in the traffic but that's another story). I would have also thought that it would serve very well as a touring bike too, especially as its available with that excellent Triumph luggage.
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sels1 View Post
    Looks like the cover of KR mag!

    So have you had a chance to ride it Dave?
    Yeah - rode it down to Hamilton to get measured up for ventura gear and had a burn the day that shot was taken.

    Professionally: Very sweet bike. Potent, responsive, comfortable, very hard to fault. What Jim said.

    Personally: Too much bodywork. Speed triple is more my style these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post

    It'll be interesting to do my little mental comparo after having ridden the Ulysses with the lowered seat - which would be the bike I'd look at if I was buying in the market this bike sits in. Any opinions on that one Dave?
    They are kind of the same and different. The tiger is, according to the factory, a strictly road going bike.

    The Buell is promoted as an 'all roads' bike.

    The Tiger is very refined - Except for the instruments and the fork 'well' leave me slight cool, but performance wise - it's a beautiful, wonderful machine. An English thoroughbred.

    The Buell is the ugly American - It vibrates, it takes a bit of practice to ride it smoothly in traffic around the directness of the belt drive, and it's all rough and ready. But when it's sweet. Damn. The torque it produces and the way it corners gets my gravity spot better than any other bike. All while being what I rate as the most versatile bike on the market.

    i like the looks of the Buell better.

    I could argue back and forwards for ages. - In the end it would come down to YOUR personal taste. You would not go wrong with either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    Ride Impression.

    The bit where I book a ride on someone else's $20,000 motorcycle.

    Crasherfromwayback makes no secret of working for Wellington Motorcycles, nor does he make any secret of the fact that he works there because it gives him easy access to two wheeled crack.

    Well he's started dealing crack now. Guess who rode the Tiger before me? Sels1. What a surprise. Not.

    If I'd had a spare twelve or thirteen thousand dollars in my pocket I would probably have gone home with a new bike.


    Actually Jim......I work there because I've worked for practically every other bike shop in Wellington, and these poor Saps were silly enough to take me on.
    I now owe them around 30k. It's called job security.

    Now......twelve or thirteen thousand dollars? Jesus....how much do you think we wanna pay you for that bike of yours anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by sels1 View Post
    Who me? whoda thought....



    Yeah me too.

    See above!



    I had a legitimate reason - Test a Honda this month and go into a draw to win a trip to Phillip Is with Arron Slight. Whats a bloke to do?


    Indeed - thanks CFWB (Pete) and Co. Thanks for the company Jim, and a most excellent write up.
    Thank you guys......appreciate the great write up!

    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Now......twelve or thirteen thousand dollars? Jesus....how much do you think we wanna pay you for that bike of yours anyway?
    I feel a bit sorry for you Pete.

    You'll take what my wife tells you to take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    I feel a bit sorry for you Pete.

    You'll take what my wife tells you to take.

    Even with fair warning you're doomed.
    I like it rough....can't wait!

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    Hmmm. Triumph Tiger. I may have to try it...

    But not this weekend. Mrs H (weather permitting) is planning a fang on a GSF650 and a GSR600.
    "Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]

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    Is it me or does the 2007 Tiger look very similar to the VStrom?

    Piccies below to compare


    P.S. Still like it though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chisanga View Post
    Is it me or does the 2007 Tiger look very similar to the VStrom?
    It's you..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    It's you..
    I thought that it might be I do like both bikes very much though but to put into perspective, my desktop picture is a 2007 Tiger at the moment
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