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    Quote Originally Posted by car View Post
    I'm showing myself for the ignoramus that I am;
    You're an amateur mate, a real professional wouldn’t have bothered looking.

    Quote Originally Posted by car View Post
    Maybe we should just get tattoos explaining which of the various previous injuries we're carrying are still relevant.
    I’ve heard a very senior local medical specialist has “DNR” tattooed on his chest (Do Not Resuscitate). He’s somewhat adverse to the prospects of vegiehood.
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    I’ve heard a very senior local medical specialist has “DNR” tattooed on his chest (Do Not Resuscitate). He’s somewhat adverse to the prospects of vegiehood.[/QUOTE]


    When 17 , I once worked as a lifeguard at a local swimming pool. One of the kids there (about 15) faked drowning to be able to have me ressuscitate him and grop my lady lumps.

    The little blighter got an inadvertant kick in the gonads for his trouble

    Apart for that, yes the St Johns' courses are awesome. But you do need to refresh your knowledge every couple of years or so. I believe you can get them to contact you when you're due for an update.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    Time to cut out the "holier/more enlightened than thou" bullshit and the "slut" comments and let people live honestly how they like providing they're not harming themselves or others in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007XX View Post
    When 17 , I once worked as a lifeguard at a local swimming pool. One of the kids there (about 15) faked drowning to be able to have me ressuscitate him and grop my lady lumps.

    The little blighter got an inadvertant kick in the gonads for his trouble
    And it only took you 15 minutes to react to this assault on your honour huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    And it only took you 15 minutes to react to this assault on your honour huh?
    How did you know? Don't tell me that was you???
    Your kissing technique could do with some improvement
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    Time to cut out the "holier/more enlightened than thou" bullshit and the "slut" comments and let people live honestly how they like providing they're not harming themselves or others in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007XX View Post
    How did you know? Don't tell me that was you???
    Your kissing technique could do with some improvement
    Madam when I was 15 swimming pools hadn't been invented, and although I retain vivid memories of 17 year old girls of the era none of them ever fell for that particular tactic whenever I employed it.

    Furthermore, at that age I wouldn't have lasted the proposed 15 minutes of such intimate proximity to a 17 year old girl in order to incur your vicious and entirely disproportionate response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Madam when I was 15 swimming pools hadn't been invented, and although I retain vivid memories of 17 year old girls of the era none of them ever fell for that particular tactic whenever I employed it.

    Furthermore, at that age I wouldn't have lasted the proposed 15 minutes of such intimate proximity to a 17 year old girl in order to incur your vicious and entirely disproportionate response.
    :slap: silly me, I forgot there was a century between us!

    yes, I know...I'm a cheecky little shit! Wouldn't be the first time I hear that....
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    Time to cut out the "holier/more enlightened than thou" bullshit and the "slut" comments and let people live honestly how they like providing they're not harming themselves or others in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007XX View Post
    :slap: silly me, I forgot there was a century between us!
    I'm less concerned with the temporal seperation than the geographic one.

    Specifically I'd feel a bloody sight more comfortable outa kicking range...
    Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    I'm less concerned with the temporal seperation than the geographic one.

    Specifically I'd feel a bloody sight more comfortable outa kicking range...
    Oh comon...I wouldn't hurt you...much!

    Although I read a book on chinese methods of torture that may come in handy sometime..

    amazing how an ecclectic taste in literature can broaden the mind, don't you think?
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    Time to cut out the "holier/more enlightened than thou" bullshit and the "slut" comments and let people live honestly how they like providing they're not harming themselves or others in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007XX View Post
    When 17 , I once worked as a lifeguard at a local swimming pool. One of the kids there (about 15) faked drowning to be able to have me ressuscitate him and grop my lady lumps.

    The little blighter got an inadvertant kick in the gonads for his trouble
    I'm sure that was an appropriate "first-aid treatment" for that particular "ailment", LOL.
    As an ex-RN and the First-aid Officer on one Poker Run, I did advise some bikers that if I found them on the ground I was going ta kick them in the balls. If they moved they might be ok, but if they didn't I'd call the ambo. I also told them not to hold their breath, as I didn't want at give them mouth-to-mouth as much as they didn't want me to give it to them (pays to be male and ugly sometimes, lol). Worked a treat. No falls that ride and there was over 500 bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajturbo View Post
    sooo that means that the free divers are all brain damaged?
    They carry a bunch of air in their lungs for the trip
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    she's cute...is step 11-20 anything to do with mouth to mouth?

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    A couple of things to keep in mind if you have to remove a helmet:

    1) it takes 2 people
    2) once you apply axial traction (holding the head still), DON'T LET GO when the helmet is off.
    3) DON'T tilt the head back to open the airway - you can use what's called a "modified jaw thrust". With fingers on the angle of the jaw, lift forward slightly. It achieves the same thing as tilting the head - it lifts the base of the tongue forward, clearing the airway.

    4) Finally - practice this stuff BEFORE you need it. Doesn't take much time, and could save a life

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    Um i would like to make one point ......before you worry about getting someones kit off.......etc etc......


    Secure the scene and make sure your safe...........the injured is safe and then worry about keeping people alive....no good if you get wiped out by the cage coming around the corner everyone just crashed at..........

    Oh and be authoritative and just tell people what to do...its amazing what people will do without thinking in this situation {while the one or two times i have experienced it}

    Also dont worry too much about ones making noise..they are alive in pain but alive.....worry about the quiet ones not making any noise....

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    Great info, +1 for you.

    managed to take my own helmet off when i crashed (did some helmet surfing in my crash....not fun), hope i never have to use the info, but glad i know it

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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    Simply put.

    If a rider is down, unconcious, and not breathing. The helmet comes off.
    If they're unconcious but breathing freely, leave it on. It's not rocket science.

    If I'm ever left to die from axphixiation (sp) because someone thought it best to leave my helmet on after a crash, I'd like that person to explain to my kids why I'm dead.

    I agree with you on this.
    I have been at (too) many crash scenes over the years and unless the person was in an area where there was no possibility of rescue/medical help and/or choking to death, every medical person I have interacted with has said to leave the helmet on... Just MHO...
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