New MNZ 2007 F3 rules

**GSVR** · 24th March 2007, 07:46

Just got my 2007 MNZ MANUAL OF MOTORCYCLE SPORT in the mail yesterday. Was very keen to have a look at at new F3 rules to figure out what I can and can't do.

Half the rules appear to be directed at 250 production two stokes. Did anyone race one of these at any of the last nationals rounds?

5-5-6 states that all machines fitted with a starter motor must have one and it must work! But this applys only to the 250's right?

Not sure if 5-6 onwards is directed at the 250's only or all bikes in the class in general.

My understanding of the old rules was that all of section 5-x-x in the old rulebook was outdated and there from a time when the 250 production twostroke was competitive.

**James Deuce** · 24th March 2007, 07:54

Well that's a load of bollocks because production two stroke 250s didn't have starter motors in road trim. What are they thinking?

**Ivan** · 24th March 2007, 08:19

Yeah I hear its allready outdated the manual

**GSVR** · 24th March 2007, 08:26

Best you read the new rules Jim2. If the bike only had a kickstart your allowed to remove it but must be able to put it back on to show the mechanism still works.

http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/down...egulations.pdf

**cowpoos** · 24th March 2007, 10:29

Originally Posted by Jim2

Well that's a load of bollocks because production two stroke 250s didn't have starter motors in road trim. What are they thinking?

late model RGV 250's did...

**bistard** · 24th March 2007, 10:32

That rule regarding starter motors,has been around for ages & has never been enforced & should have been removed

**GSVR** · 24th March 2007, 12:13

Originally Posted by bistard

That rule regarding starter motors,has been around for ages & has never been enforced & should have been removed

Have any of the rules ever been enforced?

Heres a good one:

"4-2 The specifications for 250cc Production based machines eligible under 1-2 above are described in rule 6 below."

I've looked hard and theres no rule 6. It should read rule 5 I think

and:

"5-5-3 Fuel requirements see 4 above"

Should read rule 3 I think

**bistard** · 24th March 2007, 12:58

The MNZ rule book,has been a joke for years,what happens,is every year at the MNZ conference,the rules have been tweaked,butchered,fucked about with so much & never thought through the consequences of how the alterations effect other parts of the book also

**svs** · 25th March 2007, 20:31

What you're quoting has been like that for ages. The 250 proddy stuff has been there for ages and hasn't changed. The new rules are still just a proposal and won't be ratified (or not) until the agm.

The whole section 5 is for 250 production only. You currently only have to worry about the first part. Note there's not much there. That's cos it's currently a formula class. i.e. pretty much anything goes as long as you meet the capacity limits

**Racey Rider** · 25th March 2007, 20:46

Did I read correctly that Vic club won't allow Streetstock 150's in with F3 this Winter series. Yet the rule book says they are allowed.
Appx B, 1-5 page 173

What are the thoughts behind this Phil?

Earlier it was mentioned Vic club F3 may use a qualifying cut off time to keep fields smaller. (and if you don't make the time for inclusion to F3, your out. No running within Clubmans for the F3 spill over). is that still going ahead?

Alex / Racey

**James Deuce** · 25th March 2007, 20:57

Originally Posted by cowpoos

late model RGV 250's did...

Yes, and there's about three of them left that haven't been raced or wadded into a ball somewhere.

I'm struggling to make sense of the book of rules. No wonder people "cheat".

**TonyB** · 26th March 2007, 05:52

Can definitely see how someone could make an honest mistake- the rules aren't that easy to follow.

Whens the AGM? Maybe they should have waited till after the AGM before printing?

On a brighter note- the book itself is a major step up from what I've seen before. Also the pack of discounts etc that came earlier last week was bloody good. I feel like I'm getting a lot for my money this year- well done MNZ!

**scott411** · 26th March 2007, 09:00

Originally Posted by bistard

The MNZ rule book,has been a joke for years,what happens,is every year at the MNZ conference,the rules have been tweaked,butchered,fucked about with so much & never thought through the consequences of how the alterations effect other parts of the book also

rules like this are no longer changed at conferences like in the past, the comiisioner changes them with the boards approval normally after consultation with relivant parties, if you have problems with these rules contact the road race comissioner,

conference is 5-6 may, in wellington, and their is a raod race meeting their as well

**GSVR** · 26th March 2007, 10:06

Originally Posted by svs

What you're quoting has been like that for ages. The 250 proddy stuff has been there for ages and hasn't changed. The new rules are still just a proposal and won't be ratified (or not) until the agm.

The whole section 5 is for 250 production only. You currently only have to worry about the first part. Note there's not much there. That's cos it's currently a formula class. i.e. pretty much anything goes as long as you meet the capacity limits

Yes correct but what did the 250 guys do to get over half the rules devoted to them? They must have really pissed off the scrutineers

Only part that applies to the SV650 apart from general bike safety and numbering is 4-3 c) So if you own an SV you can do everything the 250 guys aren't allowed to do thats really fair.

When I joined about a year and a half ago I got a yellow rulebook printed in 2003. So when the new proposed rules come in I guess they will show up in the next printing around 2011.

**GSVR** · 26th March 2007, 10:14

Originally Posted by TonyB

Can definitely see how someone could make an honest mistake- the rules aren't that easy to follow.

Whens the AGM? Maybe they should have waited till after the AGM before printing?

On a brighter note- the book itself is a major step up from what I've seen before. Also the pack of discounts etc that came earlier last week was bloody good. I feel like I'm getting a lot for my money this year- well done MNZ!

I agree on the book itself its heaps better than the old one.