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    I'm not happy with Helen!

    I have been talking with some people at work and we compiled this list of stuff.

    In no particular order, and I had to google a couple of them to get some numbers

    - Paid $892m of our money to buy Air New Zealand - oops lets not tell the public about the other $150M - oh and there is no political influence.

    - Paid $78m? of our money to start up another commercial bank - we must have a critical bank shortage.

    - Re-intoduced elected Health Boards - well that worked.

    - Trashed competition to ACC - so how much more are we paying now - oops lets really not tell anyone that.

    - NZCEA - dumbing down???

    - Charter for TVNZ - WTF?

    - Social spending has increased by ?? - I couldn't find any reliable numbers on that.

    - First Capital Gains tax introduced (Shares) - look out more coming!

    - Leglistated prices, unbundling and seperation of Telecom (FFS it is a PRIVATELY owned company - must have been too expensive to buy - would they do this if they bought it - NZPO - who can remember that?)

    - Restructured the power industry - what about investment in renewable vs more money from thermal on the spot market - well thats working isn't it.

    - Bought the rail road tracks for $1 (ssshhh lets not tell them about the other $200M and by the way where is the $100m from Toll?)

    - Upped personal income tax rates.

    - Several lots of additional petrol tax to pay for roads - hang on what about tolling?

    - Totally ignored the Crime referrundum - significantly reduced crime? - lets not debate by how much it has increased.

    - Are about to criminalise smacking - most polls show significant majority opinion the other way - democracy anyone?

    - Significantly reduced hospital waiting lists through several injections of $??? M - couldn't find that either.

    - No more guns in the Air Force

    - Artists can go on the dole - WTF?


    So what do you think? Are you grumpy too?

    Have I missed any other gems?
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    Don't blame Labour for the power restructuring - that was Nationals Max Bradford.
    Kiwi Bank - excellent idea. Means some of the profits stay in this country instead of all being repatriated to Aus.
    Spanking law? Last time I looked Sue Bradford was Green Party
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Don't blame Labour for the power restructuring - that was Nationals Max Bradford.
    Yep - my bad - fixed it up for us though???
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    You just wait for all the bitching if Key ever becomes the Prime Minister. Was not too long ago when Rob Muldoon 'fooled' the electorate to give Rowling the boot. I use to think this country had some political maturity but now I'm not too sure. Got a bad feeling history is not too far away from repeating itself.

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    Well, you voted for her...

    And if you pay politicians to make laws, don't blame them when they do.

    In terms of nutsville legislation you forgot about the dangerous dogs legislation.
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    Some of the worse legistlation may be the result of MMP - with the minor parties getting support for their ideas (eg repeal of section 59) in exchange for support of the majority party. Not just Labour, dont forget that Winston had a few conditions in exchange for supporting National as while back
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    You forgot about the Skyhawks we sold and then found they weren't sold. While we couldn't have won world war 3 with them the airforce was doing a very good job acting as a practice enemy for the Australian forces.

    Don't worry about a change in government as most of the 600+ permanently leaving NZ to go over the ditch each week are predominately those who would vote her out. This is a permanent shift for NZ and once the $NZ runs out of puff NZ will be the Cuba of the south pacific. So buy your new bike now while you can afford it.
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    How about the legalising prostitution bill? Holy shit, fucking, why. When it first got floated I thought it was a good idea. Oh, how wrong I was. It's legitimised (sp) a "career" that many young girls would have never considered taking up. Don't know about Auckland and K road, but Christchurch has seen a pretty big increase in the number of girls working in the industry. Far too many underage girls too, what a waste of young ladies with potential. And now it's legal, it's been legitimised to them. Bah!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant Esq View Post
    How about the legalising prostitution bill? Holy shit, fucking, why. When it first got floated I thought it was a good idea. Oh, how wrong I was. And now it's legal, it's been legitimised to them. Bah!
    The thing with this one is that once somethings legit is supposed to be legislated controlled and taxed, just like everything else. Its a good idea in principle but the government let us down by not following through.

    Just like the skyhawks that cost us about $1million a month to keep servicable just so we can apparently sell them to someone......... I have a very large bone to pick with Uncle Helen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Don't blame Labour for the power restructuring - that was Nationals Max Bradford.
    Kiwi Bank - excellent idea. Means some of the profits stay in this country instead of all being repatriated to Aus.
    Spanking law? Last time I looked Sue Bradford was Green Party
    Yes, the initial restructruring was National. Notice that Max Bradford is no longer an MP and that National have been out of office for the longest period of their history?
    However the latest rounds of restructuring were all Labour. That includes splitting of lines and generation so that Dunedin City had to sell Waipori Power Station and Central Electric had to sell all their power stations and lose the lines side of the business as well. The electricity market that was self regulating under a free market system now has a Electricity Governence Committee that is government appointed, and when they do act in the public interest the chairman gets sacked.

    Spanking Law? It is Labour who are pushing it forward under urgency. The Greens do not have that power.
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    You have it all wrong our dollar is again climbing to set a new record. House prices have gone through the roof. I need a credit card to fill my bike and finance to get it serviced. There are a lot of people out there that think Helen is doing just dandy. Someone is benefiting 'Labour did bring in the "Trickle up" theory didn't they ?

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    It has been said and IMO with some truth, that a country gets the government that it deserves. I have never really understood what motivates anyone to want to be a politician. I guess there are a few who genuinely want to make a difference, but they quickly get swallowed by the party system.
    So far as Helen goes, I have 2 areas of concern. The first is that she has never had a real job and by a real job, I mean one that has contributed directly and immediately to the net wealth of NZ. In so far as I can see, she has been groomed for politics right from university.
    My second worry is that she has never raised a family.
    Now there is nothing wrong with either of these choices and I suspect that she is a VERY able lady and probably very intelligent and shrewd as well. However, as PM she has major influence over the 2 main activities of the majority of her constituents (work and family) while having very limited personal experience of either.

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    As opposed to real wages and income almost halving under Nationals odious Employment Contracts Act and it's sellout of NZ to the lowest bidder?

    I'd still vote Helen

    Yes, yes, I DO know about Roger Douglas and the sellout under Labour when he was in control of the purse. That was the Claytons Labour Govt and it's quite telling that he and his cronies went on to form the most right wing party in NZ: ACT

    In the hands of National and ACT, NZ will be just a minimum wage economy controlled by multinationals mainly from the USA

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    She's just been talking to the most powerful man in the Western World (and the comments he passed about Duncan Garner's suit look promising). I'll bet the Whitehouse are on the phone to a few sweatshops getting them replicated as we speak!

    See - that's $50,000 in airfares well spent! What more could you ask?
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    Quote Originally Posted by idleidolidyll View Post
    In the hands of National and ACT, NZ will be just a minimum wage economy controlled by multinationals mainly from the USA
    It already is, isn't it?
    Courtesy of the National party mopping up what was left after Douglas and co shafted the country on behalf of their mates!People do have short memories - the last National regime cemented this country at the bottom of the financial pecking pile - or has everyone forgotten that!
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