Texans get it right

[Skyryder]

There is no way I want to ever be just another case number that cant answer back.

Famous last words

[Mr Merde]

Famous last words

Nice art work.

Bling sent.

5 assumptions that may be disputed

1) I drink
2) I drink to excess
3) I have a wife
4) I have a home
5) I choose to be buried or even remembered




MR

[Quartermile]

WTF, would a women be doing with a gun?, shouln't she have a rolling pin

The wife would probably just shoot him for being drunk

[Dave Lobster]

So your TV or CD collection is worth more than someone elses life?

Oh yes. I've spent thirty years collecting my CDs (CD's for the illiterate). Even if I only had one CD in the collection, it would be worth more to me than a thief's life.
A thief leaves his 'rights' at the pavement when he comes onto someone else's property. There is an easy way to avoid getting hurt/maimed/killed. DON'T FUCKING STEAL PEOPLE'S STUFF. If you want CDs and DVDs, fucking buy them! Get a job and save your money like everyone else.

[scumdog]

I'd move to texas if I wanted a fat woman and had a huge dislike for corners.

Or you could move to Palmerston North.....

[scumdog]

So your TV or CD collection is worth more than someone elses life?

So you know that your TV or CD collection is ALL they're after ...how?

[MSTRS:Me]

So your TV or CD collection is worth more than someone elses life?

Yep. They're mine. Why should I respect someone's life when they don't respect what's mine?
If they asked nicely, chances are I'd make them a copy...ooops, I mean 'back-up'...but if they break in etc, then they leave their 'rights' at the boundary of my property.

[Pixie]

However, imagine losing it and giving in to road rage urge at a useless turd in a car. The useless turd instead of aplogising shoots you and says, "well I made a driving mistake but they were threatening to kill me for it so I defended myself."

So you are arguing for the right to vent your anger over trivialities,with impunity?

[slowpoke]

Dude, check your signature line then would you. You're carrying on like a tree-hugger but your line says take the warning lables off things and let the problem sort itself out. That’s what they’re doing DOH !

Haha, I'm so stoopid I don't even know how to swim hence I'm at the shallow end of the gene pool....but I've still got the basic threat instinct that tells me this kind of legislation will create as many problems as it solves. I fear that Mr/Ms Stoopid will "accidently" kill Mr/Ms Not So Stoopid whereas Mr/Ms Not So Stoopid will be smart enough not to kill Mr/Ms Stoopid, leading to Devolution not Evolution.

Desperate people putting themselves in the position of invading someones' home and getting shot on sight is bad enough (knowingly putting themselves at risk) but the accidental deaths (gun accidently discharged ie kids playing) or manslaughter (deliberately shooting, but oops, wrong person) etc etc that arise are just unacceptable.

Do you seriously want Texas style laws? It's bad enough having knives pulled outside pubs and nightclubs, and you want guns brought into the situation?

Here's another hypothetical: what about shoplifting? A lot of deli's are attached to homes, can a deli owner shoot someone for stealing a pack of potato chips? This is Texas remember, the person could very well be legally carrying a handgun, are you gonna confront them? They have stolen from you, they have come onto your property with no thought other than to steal from you and your family. You're thinking "These pricks are costing me thousands..." He's walking out the door with his prize, "Hey!!", you confront him, he whirls around, abuses you, then reaches for his...BLAM! He falls to the ground....holding his wallet.....(Tell me honestly it will NEVER happen)

With this legislation every time an accidental killing, manslaughter or spousal murder occured due to having a gun that wouldn't otherwise have been available then the people who voted for this would be partially responsible. To put it another way: ordinary, innocent people would die so you could feel safe. Where is the logic in that?

[Dave Lobster]

How many innocent people are allowed to be killed for every bad guy that meets a sticky end? What is an acceptable number? You need to decide now, 'cos with a law like this it's guaranteed that innocent people will die.

How do you know this? Are there stats available from states where this is already the law?

Don't 'innocent' people die now?

imagine losing it and giving in to road rage urge at a useless turd in a car. The useless turd instead of aplogising shoots you and says, "well I made a driving mistake but they were threatening to kill me for it so I defended myself." Who is in the poo now? Where does it end? Lets all carry a gun or big knife and find out?

I've carried a knife in my car for the last fifteen years, and have never had the urge to take it out and use it. I dare say it would be the same with a firearm. Are you saying a law change would make me stab someone?

Having had my house robbed in the past I'd like the opportunity to meet the low life whislt they were robbing the place and dish out some justice. Not sure I'd want to top them though.

I would.

[slowpoke]

Oh yes. I've spent thirty years collecting my CDs (CD's for the illiterate). Even if I only had one CD in the collection, it would be worth more to me than a thief's life.
A thief leaves his 'rights' at the pavement when he comes onto someone else's property. There is an easy way to avoid getting hurt/maimed/killed. DON'T FUCKING STEAL PEOPLE'S STUFF. If you want CDs and DVDs, fucking buy them! Get a job and save your money like everyone else.

So how many CD's have you, or anyone else for that matter, copied unlawfully?
Ok, I get it, it's ok to steal so long as you don't actually enter anyones property right?

[davereid]

The worst thing about firearms is they they give females, the elderly, and the physically weak the ability to defend themselves.

Ya can't have that can ya !

Leave the ability to use force to young fit males. That will make the world a better place.

[Dave Lobster]

So how many CDs have you, or anyone else for that matter, copied unlawfully?

None. I own NO copied CDs or DVDs. I've copied some of my records onto CD, but I've bought the original and a lot of my LPs aren't available on CD anyway.

I may be a lot of things, but I do try not to be a hypocrite.

[slowpoke]

Yep. They're mine. Why should I respect someone's life when they don't respect what's mine?
If they asked nicely, chances are I'd make them a copy...ooops, I mean 'back-up'...but if they break in etc, then they leave their 'rights' at the boundary of my property.

So you are allowed to steal from the music/movie distributors....but no one is allowed to steal from you? By your own definition the distributors have got every right to go medievil on your ass....

[slowpoke]

None. I own NO copied CDs or DVDs. I've copied some of my records onto CD, but I've bought the original and a lot of my LPs aren't available on CD anyway.

I may be a lot of things, but I do try not to be a hypocrite.

I take my hat off to you sir, but the rest of the general population is shifting uncomfortably in their seat. If we bring in capital punisment for theft you are going to be a lonely man.......