Sick Suzi

[Disco Dan]

back now... the problem still there.

Eliminated the plugs. They are brand new and correctly gapped. The HT caps are all perfect now.

It only happens when I really 'open' the throttle up - im thinking carbs now... dirty - not enough fuel when fully wound up. Will strip them down and clean it all out.

damit... dam tank is a pain to take off... and the airbox... well thats a hours work just there!

...timing? yes I can hear its out, as well as feel it.. put fingers lightly on the chain cover on the head and give it a rev. But thats tomorrows job!

[_Gina_]

back now... the problem still there.

Eliminated the plugs. They are brand new and correctly gapped. The HT caps are all perfect now.

It only happens when I really 'open' the throttle up - im thinking carbs now... dirty - not enough fuel when fully wound up. Will strip them down and clean it all out.

damit... dam tank is a pain to take off... and the airbox... well thats a hours work just there!

...timing? yes I can hear its out, as well as feel it.. put fingers lightly on the chain cover on the head and give it a rev. But thats tomorrows job!

You must listen carefully

You can't eliminate the plugs as being a cause of the problem until you have put the old one's back in.

Honestly, do it now to avoid drama later.

[Disco Dan]

You must listen carefully

You can't eliminate the plugs as being a cause of the problem until you have put the old one's back in.

Honestly, do it now to avoid drama later.

but they are exactly the same as the old ones... just less 'black'. ???????

Pulling the carbs off is much less hassle the getting those pesky plugs out with the stupid tool I get. its like a tube with a couple of holes in it, shove a allen key through the top and get pliers on it to turn... takes a good 2 min to move it a 1/8 of a turn!!! no room! Cant get sockets in there either. The 4 spark plug sockets I have are all the wrong size too.

A subaru full of natives and just about bottoming out their suspension decided to overtake me on the mway... poor suzi just gagged and jerked and wouldnt go any faster.... im taking the carbs off...

[_Gina_]

but they are exactly the same as the old ones... just less 'black'. ???????

Okay dokey

That doesn't eliminate them though. Can't be bothered explaining why though...


Good luck.

G

[paturoa]

I was serious about not turning the the cam adjuster knob - you will fark the cam chain and or guides. It only takes up the slack in the cam chain and only turns in one direction - tighter.

Go download a manual and have a good read.

You cannot adjust the cam timings without a whole lot of work, and taking the cam cover off, slotting the cam sprockets, and settting them using dial gauges etc etc.

[Disco Dan]

I was serious about not turning the the cam adjuster knob - you will fark the cam chain and or guides. It only takes up the slack in the cam chain and only turns in one direction - tighter.

Go download a manual and have a good read.

You cannot adjust the cam timings without a whole lot of work, and taking the cam cover off, slotting the cam sprockets, and settting them using dial gauges etc etc.

yeah, its a bti of work. But I got all the gear to do it... and the manual. So will give it a go...

[Disco Dan]

Okay dokey

That doesn't eliminate them though. Can't be bothered explaining why though...


Good luck.

G

Thanks, it seems to be the most logical thing thats going wrong... It is possible the new plugs could be faulty ie cracked insulator and only sparking through the crack at high rpm. Is that what you meant?

[_Gina_]

Thanks, it seems to be the most logical thing thats going wrong... It is possible the new plugs could be faulty ie cracked insulator and only sparking through the crack at high rpm. Is that what you meant?

Not as such.

Your description of the fault is just that; your description.

I based most of my comments on what you have changed since it was not presenting with the fault you describe (straight after you changed stuff)

Re: the above, I meant that you were assuming that you didn't crack an insulator or that you had tightened the plugs properly or, or, or.....
which is a common mistake that home mechanics make, you may or maynot be one....

G

[Disco Dan]

Not as such.

Your description of the fault is just that; your description.

I based most of my comments on what you have changed since it was not presenting with the fault you describe (straight after you changed stuff)

Re: the above, I meant that you were assuming that you didn't crack an insulator or that you had tightened the plugs properly or, or, or.....
which is a common mistake that home mechanics make, you may or maynot be one....

G

crystal clear... thank you. My thought process got there in the end... more challanges await me tomorrow!

i have to ask.. and im sooo going to regret this comment...

Whats a stiffy?

[Disco Dan]

Ask Dover - he knows all about my stify.

Id rather not... the whole 'pigmy love' thing is disturbing.




Operation pull the plugs today! Dam things... wheres my beer...

[Max Preload]

Not as such.

Your description of the fault is just that; your description.

I based most of my comments on what you have changed since it was not presenting with the fault you describe (straight after you changed stuff)

Re: the above, I meant that you were assuming that you didn't crack an insulator or that you had tightened the plugs properly or, or, or.....
which is a common mistake that home mechanics make, you may or maynot be one....

G

And given earlier mention of a the plugs requiring a "funny size socket" it's quite possible damage could be done installing the new plugs. But I'm leaning towards the suppressor cap...

[Disco Dan]

Ok, its NOT the plugs. Just put the old ones back in. Still the same symptoms.

Suggestions on a post card folks addressed to:

PO Box "disco dans brain"

[Disco Dan]

And given earlier mention of a the plugs requiring a "funny size socket" it's quite possible damage could be done installing the new plugs. But I'm leaning towards the suppressor cap...

worked out the tool in the end..

Now, it could either be a lead arcing or the carbs.

Maybe I dislodged some muck when I sprayed a bit of carb cleaner in them.

damit ! ! blimin thing!

LINKY to photo.

[Disco Dan]

OK, cleaned out the carbs again. Waiting for the K&N filter to dry so I can re-oil it.

If it doesnt work this time.... far out... will be shopping for some new HT leads tomorrow


EDIT:

all back together now... off for a test ride

[Disco Dan]

Ive lost count of how many times ive taken the tank off... *rolls eyes*

* it's not the air filter.
* its not the spark plugs (new ones back in now)
* its not the carbs.

That leaves - HT leads. My next theory is that one of the HT leads is arcing under high RPM. (anything over 8000rpm)

Ok, well tomorrow I will head over to Motohaus and get a price on a new set of HT leads....

Unless anyone has any other suggestions for the cause?

Is there any way to test the leads?

(short of reving the bike over 8000rpm and looking for a spark... the neigbours hate the bikes already)

Two days of working on this bike, and all ive got is very clean carbs and new oil and spark plugs!

Well she's had a wash, garage cleaned up and she's safely away for the night... may give her a wax later tonight

...off to pick Kerrys' brain tomorrow I think... Hope it doesnt use too much pingers ($$$).