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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster View Post
    Been helping a friend get over a drug addiction - pot.... she now has her memory back and feels a great deal more alert.
    Having a friend who's a recovering alcoholic doesn't mean that drinking a few pints now and then is a bad idea. And if your mate was smoking weed every day, I'm not fucking surprised she feels more alert off it. Don't use that fact to range yourself alongside the prohibitionists.

    And don't forget that dependence on cannabis is primarily psychological. There's not really any such thing as physical withdrawal from THC, as there is from alcohol, caffeine and opiates. On that basis, it's safer.

    I've been through caffeine withdrawal and then got back on. It's a socially acceptable drug, but I don't make any bones about the fact that I'm dependant on it to function and that I get *very* sick for a week or more if it's withheld.

    I know plenty who smoke cannabis, but nobody who has been significantly harmed by it in any way. That's as opposed to the people I know whose lives have been destroyed by methamphetamine and/or alcohol.

    The prohibition of cannabis is, in many ways, analogous to the stalling of research into anabolic steroids in the 1950s/60s. A potentially beneficial body of pharmaceuticals, completely ignored due to foolish political fearmongering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Hemp used to be in the Pharmacopaeia. Until 1932 in fact (and the Codex , still later). It was only banned for medicinal use in the UK in 1975

    That it does have genuine medicinal uses is incontestable .

    Isn't it a pity that the powers that be refuse to acknowledge this but instead fill us with chalk and crap? Guess there's more money in it

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    Women and work give me nausea and stomach cramps and severe mood swings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster View Post
    Women and work give me nausea and stomach cramps and severe mood swings.
    Yes, I have these problems too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster View Post
    Women and work give me nausea and stomach cramps and severe mood swings.

    my point to that is my gp said to take magnesium and b6..I found a combination supplement 'bio magnesuim'(blackmores)and is it subsidised????????NO..$16.60 ...a dam seed in the ground is free but I risk getting sent to prison for some mild pain releif and mood mellower......oh and valium is addictive and cant be combined with my other pain releivers so what do you do for pms Toaster????
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    Problem is that 99% of pot use ISNT medicinal, and where they have introduced medicinal pot, people are lieing through their teeth to get prescriptions just to get high on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lias View Post
    Problem is that 99% of pot use ISNT medicinal, and where they have introduced medicinal pot, people are lieing through their teeth to get prescriptions just to get high on.
    Still not really seeing a problem. People pack into pubs everyday and smoke and drink there lives away. I know its not the same thing but I just think people should be able to make there own opinions as to what they want to put in their bodies.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lias View Post
    Problem is that 99% of pot use ISNT medicinal, and where they have introduced medicinal pot, people are lieing through their teeth to get prescriptions just to get high on.
    Don't pretend to be shocked. If that was the only way of getting alcohol or caffeine, exactly the same thing would happen.

    'Medicinal use only' really is a pointless half-measure. We should legalise the shit already and just move on.

    If hell freezes over and the ALCP gets a 5% party vote next election, it'll happen, because they'll sell their souls to whichever major party they can pair up with in exchange for cannabis legalisation.

    Personally, I'm tempted to let the reds and blues fight it out on their own, and use my party vote to support a single sensible policy. If every pothead in the country did the same, we'd have legalisation by lunchtime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket View Post
    Still not really seeing a problem. People pack into pubs everyday and smoke and drink there lives away. I know its not the same thing but I just think people should be able to make there own opinions as to what they want to put in their bodies.....
    Agreed, there are worse (and legal) things that people can put into thier bodies.

    I have a lot of stoner mates who use it recreationally, and they still live productive lives and on the other hand I have other mates who drink by the dozen and it affects so many aspects of thier life (too hungover to go to work, too hungover to spend time with the kids so they put them infront of the tv etc).

    I'd choose something natural over something man made anyday
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    Is this about herbal remedies or legalising cannabis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pwalo View Post
    Is this about herbal remedies or legalising cannabis?
    Legalising cannabis.

    In fact, I'm going to go make a poll on the subject. It'll be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket View Post
    Still not really seeing a problem. People pack into pubs everyday and smoke and drink there lives away. I know its not the same thing but I just think people should be able to make there own opinions as to what they want to put in their bodies.....
    I have known a few people who let pot control (and ruin their lives) same as alchoholics. There will always be a percentage that abuse things, why legalise any more substances for abuse.

    The only reason I'd support legalising pot is to tax the ever loving snot out of it and cut the cash crop for the gangs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lias View Post
    I have known a few people who let pot control (and ruin their lives) same as alchoholics. There will always be a percentage that abuse things, why legalise any more substances for abuse.

    The only reason I'd support legalising pot is to tax the ever loving snot out of it and cut the cash crop for the gangs.
    Yeah, yeah same same. At the end of the day no one likes being told what they can and cant do. I just think that if people are ill why are we pumping shit loads of chemicals into them if something natural like cannibis would help and THEY would prefer to put that into their bodies?
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    irrespective of any official reason stated, normally, when the government regulates or restricts use or distribution of something there's a financial/revenue consideration underpinning it .........

    in all honesty, they'd prolly outlaw homegrown veggies if they could get away with it, let alone something useable as a recreational drug .............

    a 'good' government is one that would permit people most control over their own affairs ...... pity none of us is ever likely to encounter such
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pwalo View Post
    Is this about herbal remedies or legalising cannabis?

    it goes hand in hand in my mind!!!
    alchahol is legal(am goin on the wagon as my binge drinking gives me week long hanovers..too much cactus in the taquilla)
    methadone is legal(supposedly for recovering junkies who only use it as their next fix..lest we forget the divine poppy)
    tobacco is legal(so far so good,wheres my papers)
    prostitution is legal(ok not a herb but still deals go on)
    and ooooooooo thank god for caffine!!!!!
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