Climate change reports

[Bass]

Not true. Modern desalination plants are part of the power station. The water that is being deslainated is also the primary coolant for the power station.
The secondary, demineralised coolant is recycled through heat exchangers and is reused over and over.

Agreed - but the post that gave rise to this was suggesting desalination plants in Oz to get around drought problems and in this case the power stations already exist. Moreover, they tend to use cooling towers for the condensors and so the cooling water is lost to atmosphere.

Combined coastal generation / desalination plants are perfectly feasible but also fearsomely expensive.

[The_Dover]

I thought aussies drank XXXX and VB??

what the fuck do they need water for? it's not like they wash.

[Bass]

I thought aussies drank XXXX and VB??

what the fuck do they need water for? it's not like they wash.

Welcome Ben

Are you ever gonna make it round for band practice - I've had a beer in the fridge with your name on it for a fortnight now.

Whoops......... back on track

[SPman]

Now as I understand it, fossil fuels originated from vegetation which in turn originated from atmosheric CO2 via photosynthesis. Therefore, when we burn fossil fuels, are we not just sticking the CO2 back where it came from in the first place?

Question of time scale perhaps.......100,000,000 yrs to lock it all up.....200 yrs to dump it all back in the atmos?

[Bass]

Question of time scale perhaps.......100,000,000 yrs to lock it all up.....200 yrs to dump it all back in the atmos?

Bugger, you spotted the flaw. Oh well, it was a bit tongue in cheek anyway.

[Jantar]

Question of time scale perhaps.......100,000,000 yrs to lock it all up.....200 yrs to dump it all back in the atmos?

Modern tectonic science is suggesting that the so called fossil fuels aren't so fossilised after all. That's mainly because most of the more recent finds are in places and depths that are almost impossible to sourced from fossil origions.

However, the current levels of CO2 in the atmosphere are higher than previously recorded, but measurments of levels earlier times show that overall the current levels are only average. Of more interest is the fact that atmospheric CO2 levels follow rather than lead warming. This strongly suggests that warming causes increased atmospheric CO2, not that atmospheric CO2 causes warming.

[jonbuoy]

Yeah stupid scientists - look at all the other stuff they cried about - microscopic things you can't even see that can make you sick, fridges and aerosols causing Ozone layer depletion, lead in petrol, Southern parts of the USA at risk from a freak storm

- oh wait now, that was all true.

[Jantar]

Agreed - but the post that gave rise to this was suggesting desalination plants in Oz to get around drought problems and in this case the power stations already exist. Moreover, they tend to use cooling towers for the condensors and so the cooling water is lost to atmosphere.

Combined coastal generation / desalination plants are perfectly feasible but also fearsomely expensive.

Quite right Bass, Thats because most thermal stations are near the fuel source rather than on the coast. Where a thermal power station is already on the coast (eg Newcastle) then adding a desalination plant is very cost effective.

[Bass]

Quite right Bass, Thats because most thermal stations are near the fuel source rather than on the coast. Where a thermal power station is already on the coast (eg Newcastle) then adding a desalination plant is very cost effective.

Hoy !!! I thought it was against the rules for 2 people to agree on this site.

[Bass]

However, the current levels of CO2 in the atmosphere are higher than previously recorded, but measurments of levels earlier times show that overall the current levels are only average. .

Oh, and just to be a total smartarse, isn't this internally inconsistent?

[SPman]

Ozone depletion is far more dangerous, in the short term, than CO2 enhancement of the atmos. I'd rather be warmer and wetter, than having more & more of the ultraviols searing my ravaged skin.

[Big Dave]

I thought aussies drank XXXX and VB??

what the fuck do they need water for? it's not like they wash.

Queenslanders drink Castlemain XXXX.
They are a bit like the your lot.
No-one takes them seriously.