Fair Go tonight

**Mrs Busa Pete** · 12th April 2007, 14:18

Originally Posted by Jim2

No. Quite simply I have found them to be without exception scurrilous liars and incapable of listening to simple requirements in regard to price bracket and features required.
It took us 18 months and literally weeks of our time to find a house that we eventually bought because the 30 or more Real Estate Agents simply wasted their and our time. 3 Bedrooms and a garage in a particular price range over a 30 km territory of dense housing is not that hard to do you'd think. Plus one of the Real Estate Agents, who still operates in the area we live in, threatened to "do" me if we didn't stop putting in lower counter offers on a particular property. Only one of them threatened violence. None of them could follow simple instructions. 100% failure.
It would be up to you to prove otherwise were I to buy a house from you.

1/ do you know that 80% of house sold are not what a purchaser has asked for on inital consultatation. I for one have lost many a sell dew to a purchaser buy something completely opposite to what they have asked for.

2/It could be diffucult if there is nothing out there for sale in the price range that you are looking for.

3/ How do you know he wasn't doing what the vendor asked of him.Vendor may of said don't come back unless it's a desent offer so he would of been 100% listening to the person he was working for. And stop and think about that as one day you may be a vendor. As far as a consultant threatening you you should of told him to get off your property and dont come back. Then rang the Manger of said company and delt with them.
Wendy

**James Deuce** · 12th April 2007, 14:23

1. We had a plan. We stuck to it.

2. There was plenty. Unless there was a large percentage of illegal advertising going on. Ring up to look at a particular property and get shown a different one. No sale.

3. Doesn't excuse threatening me with violence and how does a piece of paper hurt anyone? Simple yes or no. He was/is the Manager of that particular company.

**Beemer** · 12th April 2007, 14:35

You know the real estate agent who refused to tell me what road a property was on so I could decide if I wanted to see it or not? A few days later he rang me at home and I initially thought he'd either changed his mind or perhaps had spoken to the seller and they didn't have a problem with me knowing where the house was. Nope! He actually rang back to have another go at me and to say that even if I offered more than what the seller wanted, he would NEVER sell the house to me! The strange thing is, when I spoke to him the first time I said "don't worry if you can't tell me where it is, I will just deal with other agencies who don't have a problem telling me the location of their properties" so it's not like I abused him or anything. I wrote a letter to his boss and she wasn't much better. Basically just said she was sorry I had not found him very helpful and wished me well with my house hunting! He is no longer working as an agent - bloody good job, he was about 90 anyway!

**Bass** · 12th April 2007, 15:06

Originally Posted by Dynamytus50

A large portion of the public believe most of what they see or read, as did i before i saw how they manipulate things.

My personal experience of journalists (and I have a little - experience that is) has brought me to think that there is no other group within our society that is quite as skilled at distorting the truth without actually telling a lie.
I once put this point of view to a TV3 presenter - she agreed with me

**Paul in NZ** · 12th April 2007, 15:34

The media is a business whos 'worth' in advertising terms is based around the number of eyeballs it can attract. Many media outlets will present information in a way that attracts these eyeballs. Polls are GREAT because by loading the question you can affect the outcome....

For instance, one poll on stuff asked...

Would you support stricter policing of speed limits to bring down the number of deaths on our roads?

Of course most people said yes! But there is no supporting evidence to prove that stricter policing WILL bring down the road toll is there? (sigh)

So this is all a waste of time - it may be an indicator but thats it. Especially in light of recent cases highlighting less than desireable historical behaviour of the Police. Daft sensationalist reporting - bah humbug I say...

**Hitcher** · 12th April 2007, 15:44

I am looking forward to the passage of Clayton Cosgrove's Bill to reform the real estate "industry". And not before time. Current legislation exists basically to protect the real estate industry, rather than the rights of people who want to buy and sell houses.

**Squeak the Rat** · 12th April 2007, 16:06

News is aimed at the average kiwi, who quite frankly is thick enough to believe most propaganda thrown at them, be it from news organisations putting their spin on stories for profit, through to government departments brainwashing people with road safety initiatives that generate the most revenue at the least cost.

Cops probably notice the incosistent facts in news more than most people.

Mmmmm, toni......

**SPman** · 12th April 2007, 16:24

I just start off with the assumption that every proffession is full of shit and rely on the individuals to prove otherwise - it can only get better from there on!

Sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised..........but only sometimes!

**marty** · 12th April 2007, 16:24

in our subdivision stage there are 6 sections left for sale.

all of them are owned by real estate agents, who purchased them prior to title, prior to them even being listed.

purchase price at release - $125k. purchase price now? minimum $200k.

if it's not insider trading i don't know what it is. i have spoken to the REINZ - their reply 'oh that happens all the time - it's one of the perks of the job'.

there is no higher authority, apart from the IRD, to go to.

**Squeak the Rat** · 12th April 2007, 16:29

Originally Posted by marty

in our subdivision stage there are 6 sections left for sale.

all of them are owned by real estate agents, who purchased them prior to title, prior to them even being listed.

purchase price at release - $125k. purchase price now? minimum $200k.

if it's not insider trading i don't know what it is. i have spoken to the REINZ - their reply 'oh that happens all the time - it's one of the perks of the job'.

there is no higher authority, apart from the IRD, to go to.

Have you tried a complaint to the commerce commission? Not sure if would do anything but might be worth a go.

The REINZ is a joke, albeit not a very funny one. The PCA gets bad press for looking after their own, but they pale by comparison to the reinz.

**Finn** · 12th April 2007, 16:30

Originally Posted by marty

in our subdivision stage there are 6 sections left for sale.

all of them are owned by real estate agents, who purchased them prior to title, prior to them even being listed.

purchase price at release - $125k. purchase price now? minimum $200k.

if it's not insider trading i don't know what it is. i have spoken to the REINZ - their reply 'oh that happens all the time - it's one of the perks of the job'.

there is no higher authority, apart from the IRD, to go to.

While you could argue that this may be unethical, it is certainly not illegal nor is it insider trading. You would get a more favourable response from the Auckland Zoo than the IRD. What makes you think they would be remotely interested or could do anything about it?

**marty** · 12th April 2007, 16:35

i didn't. i'm just fucked off the section that i wanted is now for sale by the real estate agent that told me 18 months ago there was no more sections for sale as they were all privately owned and had house plans for them. only found out it was theirs as a mate looked at buying it, did a title search on it, and found out the vendor is the agent. she owns 4 of the 6 sections left. not bad at $75k profit each

**SPman** · 12th April 2007, 16:36

Its the old boys network - been happening for decades. Its no accident that most land agents in Auckland drive Mercedes & BMW's, - and after lawyers and merchant bankers, its real estate agents who own the most houses down Victoria Avenue, in Remuera!
We got shafted on a Dairy farm purchase, some years ago - made a very reasonable offer, that was rejected - found out later that the "agent" had actually sold the farm to some lawyer mates in Auckland for rather less than the amount we had offered!!
75% of dealings, we've had with agents have been rather less than satisfactory!