Trial by trickery or how Scott was stitched up

[Jantar]

The worst part of the Scott Watson case is that there is absolutely no evidence that the young couple are even dead, let alone that a murder has taken place.

I do believe that they are dead, and by foul play. So far though, there has been no evidence at all in that direction. It is possible that they have been abducted and shipped off to Asia as sex slaves. It is possible that they ran off together and are living happily in Timbukto. It is likely that they are dead, but where is the proof? It is probable that they were taken aboard a ketch; a type of boat that Scott Watson didn't own.

[Sanx]

Would it suck be that person? Sure. But for society overall is locking up a few innocents by mistake better than the potential damage caused by letting the guilty run free? I think so.

And there is the number one argument against the death penalty. At least you can release someone who's wrongly locked up...

[peasea]

Whoa, whoa dude, the paranoia will eat you up grasshopper, I was refering to incompetence and poor judgement rather than something more sinister.

Do you really think if innocent people are getting 'nailed' by inspectors that they would make it obvious let alone allow fellow workers know about it??

My comment was based on having no desire to rub shoulders with some who see the job as a way of grand-standing, pay increases and distancing themselves from the coal face.
And making dumb-arsed decisions.

Well, that clears that up somewhat.

Much better to have incompetent inspectors with poor judgement than something more 'sinister'.

They're still bad eggs.

[SPman]

It is a wider issue than Scot Watson. ...
As far as NZ needing to know what sort of a Justice system I d not think many could conceive of how truly crooked our legal system is - it's that bad.
.......

I believe a book on judicial corruption, perhaps using 5 cases with recurring themes of bent tactics, though a big project could be in order.

There is at least one web site pushing this view. Knowing a couple of high level judicial people, I would tend to beleive there is something in it.
http://www.stiassny.org/index.html

[peasea]

There is at least one web site pushing this view. Knowing a couple of high level judicial people, I would tend to beleive there is something in it.
http://www.stiassny.org/index.html

I've had a quick look and nothing surprises me. I've also saved it to my favourites so that I can digest it at a later date but I doubt I'll be amused. Thanks for the link and the perpetuation of conspiracy theories, paranoia and dead horse flogging. (Or is it just passing on some home truths, perhaps?)

Global warming, bent judges, no more free speech, a cash hungry highway patrol.....where will it all end? The crematorium at The Church of Sister Mary Gearchange?

Form a queue.

[Skyryder]

There is at least one web site pushing this view. Knowing a couple of high level judicial people, I would tend to beleive there is something in it.
http://www.stiassny.org/index.html

Just bookmarked the link. Intersting link. Will be keeping an eye on developments with this.

Skyryder

[SPman]

Global warming, bent judges, no more free speech, a cash hungry highway patrol.....where will it all end? The crematorium at The Church of Sister Mary Gearchange?
Form a queue.

Just life as usual......the faces change, the events remain the same......

Nah - I've got a nice little tree on a hill picked out - of course, it would have to be a midnight dig, but, what the hell..........

[marty]

Not poking the Borax, but; could you expand on those comments?

You don't want rise higher you say; why? Is it because you don't want to run the risk of having the finger pointed at you for (hypothetically speaking) conjuring up shonky convictions to score brownie points, or is it that you don't want to rub shoulders with those already a rung or two further up the ladder? Or both?

How many dodgey inspectors spring to mind when you're shuddering and why don't you dob them in? Surely if the police force is harbouring inspectors who are nailing innocent people (or tampering with evidence, making it up, whatever) then the best way to clean things up is from the inside, right? Us mere mortals haven't got a snowball's chance in hell even when it comes to questioning traffic tickets, what show would we have of proving a bent copper to be bent?

Where does one draw the line? If you know someone is doing something wrong and you do nothing, then are you, or are you not, as guilty as that someone?

Oh good grief - you should have taken the red pill dude. You're the sort of attitude I used to love coming up against. Some of us just enjoyed kicking arses on the street, instead of playing the hurry up and wait/clean-up squad approach of those further up the food chain.

I don't see you down at parliament pushing for all those parlimentarians that have been larging it up on dubiously funded excursions and projects the taxpayer is paying for, to be kicked out - surely by your way of thinking you should be starting at the top? Or are you, by association, and the fact that you aren't doing anything about it, just as guilty as they are?

[dangerous]

Oh good grief - you should have taken the red pill dude. You're the sort of attitude I used to love coming up against. Some of us just enjoyed kicking arses on the street, instead of playing the hurry up and wait/clean-up squad approach of those further up the food chain.

I don't see you down at parliament pushing for all those parlimentarians that have been larging it up on dubiously funded excursions and projects the taxpayer is paying for, to be kicked out - surely by your way of thinking you should be starting at the top? Or are you, by association, and the fact that you aren't doing anything about it, just as guilty as they are?

The Harly rider answered your question in the post you quoted... and you say he has an attude, so do you reading the 1st paragragh.

[peasea]

Oh good grief - you should have taken the red pill dude. You're the sort of attitude I used to love coming up against. Some of us just enjoyed kicking arses on the street, instead of playing the hurry up and wait/clean-up squad approach of those further up the food chain.

I don't see you down at parliament pushing for all those parlimentarians that have been larging it up on dubiously funded excursions and projects the taxpayer is paying for, to be kicked out - surely by your way of thinking you should be starting at the top? Or are you, by association, and the fact that you aren't doing anything about it, just as guilty as they are?

As it happens I have marched on Parliament and who said I wasn't doing anything?

Attitude? Me? have a look in the mirror sonny jim.

[peasea]

The Harly rider answered your question in the post you quoted... and you say he has an attude, so do you reading the 1st paragragh.

It sounds like it should have been HIM taking the pills. If that's the attitude "on the street" then perhaps there's an ounce of truth in my piss-takes and cynicism?

[Swoop]

Will be keeping an eye on developments with this.

Another very interesting development...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10476734

[Patrick]

Damn... May eat humble pie yet?

He is still an arsehole....

[Wolf]

Another very interesting development...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10476734

So when Watson is finally released he can hook up with Arthur Allan Thomas and David Bain - I'm sure they'd all have a lot to talk about...

[Skyryder]

So when Watson is finally released he can hook up with Arthur Allan Thomas and David Bain - I'm sure they'd all have a lot to talk about...

Well they will all be rich men. If Bain is found not guilty watch the dollars roll in and rightly so too.

I have sneaking suspician that this is why the Politicians have no interest in the Watson case. There has been a serious miscarriage of justice here and that's gives him grounds for litigation against the state. I have no doubt that he will eventually be freed but the money he recieves in compensation will in all probaility be confidential. I just hope he keeps himself clean and makes no cockups in the meantime. Getting married while in the slammer was not a smart move.

Skyryder