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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    No need to shout, we're right here and not deaf,you know.
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    But the whole damned case is necessary to provide a potted summary for the hand-picked jury to reach agreement on in an edited commercial half-hour of television.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
    Just wondering here folks....

    Was this thread started because of the half hour tv show aired recently, where a mock jury decide the case, all in the space of a half hour, where the actual case was heard over months of hearings in courts???

    Half hour tv verses whole court casde?

    Hmmmmmmmmmmm..................
    You know what, I don't think it was....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
    Just wondering here folks....
    Was this thread started because of the half hour tv show aired recently,
    Rather simple to answer you actually... try reading the opening post on this thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    Just finished reading TRIAL BY TRICKERY by Keith Hunter on the sounds murders of Ben Smart and Olivia Hope. No doubt in my mind of Watson's innocent. Anyone else read this book?

    Skyryder
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous View Post
    Rather simple to answer you actually... try reading the opening post on this thread...
    Yeah I'm still reading this book. If the Author is correct, there is a "serious miscarriage of justice" in this case. Instead of tv having a jury retry this case how about. Mr Pope and the Author have an honest debate on live TV where you can phone in questions. This whole case stinks, if you have read the book ? Just like to know how the judicial system backs it up when questioned in the public forum . Much worse than some of the unresolved issues in the Bain trial, like the Policewoman being able to change her statement on the time she saw Bain, afterwards type issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc View Post
    Yeah I'm still reading this book. If the Author is correct, there is a "serious miscarriage of justice" in this case.
    IIRC, the "serious miscarriage of justice" goes a long way up the ladder
    cheers DD
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous View Post
    Rather simple to answer you actually... try reading the opening post on this thread...
    I did... just happened that the half hour TV show was also on just recently...

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    Whether anyone has posted the website associated with this book:
    www.//trialbytrickery.com
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    KB just received an email from the books author, he has requested this gets posted up on his behalf

    I am the author of Trial By Trickery. I reply to the queries posted on this website:

    The book was written after four years research into the written record of the Watson case. These records include all the statements made to the police during their inquiry, all the transcripts of evidence given at the trial, all of the submissions made to the Court of Appeal and all of the judgments made in the case. I also spoke to all the principal witnesses in the case, all of whom say Watson is the wrong man and that his boat ‘Blade’ is the wrong boat. These witnesses all appear in the film described below.

    The book was written after the refusal of the justice system to pay any heed to my film ‘Murder On The Blade?”. This was not one of the ‘half hours’ one of the correspondents refers to here. It was a 93 minute documentary which I researched, wrote, directed, presented and produced and which was broadcast on TV One between 7.30pm and 9.30pm on Friday 7 November 2003. The documentary won the best documentary award for the years 2003 & 2004 at the NZ Screen Awards in 2005. After it was broadcast a Herald poll showed that 15% of the population had changed their minds about Watson’s guilt.

    The book was taken up by Penguin Books in October 2004. However, after having it for a year and a half and after consulting two sets of media lawyers in that time, Penguin gave it back to me in April 2006 on the grounds that it was too dangerous legally and that those criticized in it would have no choice but to sue. Consequently I published it myself, on 12 March this year. No one has sued. This is because the claims in the book are true. Anyone suing could only lose in a case which would cause all the facts to be presented on a wider scale than a book can achieve. The result would be disastrous not just for the lawyers, policemen and judges attacked but for the system they represent as well.

    The book says the police lied and the prosecutors, the trial judge and three judges of the Court of Appeal all misquoted the evidence and misinformed the public repeatedly. The question the book raises is whether or not they all lied or are blatantly incompetent. My view is that they all lied, because they all had access to the truth, because it is their job to know it and it is impossible for them not to have known it.

    Despite the book listing, literally, a blatant scam by ‘the authorities’ on every page, there has been no response to it from any of the police, the lawyers, or the judges who are called liars or incompetents in the book. They are waiting for it to go away, as they did with the film. On the other hand I am determined it will not go away this time. The book’s website will see to that.

    A copy of the book was sent to every Member of Parliament on 9 March. So far just two have read it to my knowledge, Nandor Tanczos (justice spokesman for the Greens), and Simon Power (justice spokesman for National). Nandor visited me on 23 April and vowed to raise questions about the issues in Parliament.

    The book was no.2 in the booksellers’ lists for nonfiction in March and has now repaid the cost of publishing but I have no expectation that it will pay me a fee for the two years it took to write it. I wrote it because I believe New Zealand needs to know what sort of a ‘justice system’ we have and because Scott Watson should obviously be freed immediately and replaced in prison by the liars and incompetents who put him there. The book suggests that they, not Watson, are the criminals, and if they were not so exalted and therefore above the law they would undoubtedly be charged with perjury and conspiracy to pervert justice.

    If there is anyone who claims Watson is guilty let him please supply evidence for it and not just rely on the verdict of a jury which was deliberately misled and misinformed.

    Further information about both book and film is available on the website trialbytrickery.com

    Keith Hunter

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    Thanks for the post Joni. All I can add is to read the book and make up your own minds after you have read it. It is very scary stuff. For my part I have no doubt about Scot Watson's innocent whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joni View Post
    The book says the police lied and the prosecutors, the trial judge and three judges of the Court of Appeal all misquoted the evidence and misinformed the public repeatedly. The question the book raises is whether or not they all lied or are blatantly incompetent. My view is that they all lied, because they all had access to the truth, because it is their job to know it and it is impossible for them not to have known it.

    ...I am determined it will not go away this time. The book’s website will see to that..... I wrote it because I believe New Zealand needs to know what sort of a ‘justice system’ we have....

    and because Scott Watson should obviously be freed immediately and replaced in prison by the liars and incompetents who put him there. The book suggests that they, not Watson, are the criminals, and if they were not so exalted and therefore above the law they would undoubtedly be charged with perjury and conspiracy to pervert justice.

    Keith Hunter
    It is a wider issue than Scot Watson. The perjuring lawyers, judge scum and witnesses (if any) were not strangers to corruption. They just got caught out cos someone ie this author took an interest.

    He is determined it will not go away - he is brave, Look what happened to a winebox case witness who had the ability to make things come out in the open that powerful people did not want to.

    As far as NZ needing to know what sort of a Justice system I d not think many could conceive of how truly crooked our legal system is - it's that bad.
    Getting belief will be hard. As you say the doco only shifted 16%. The resistance to believing things could be crooked is strong as people like to believe the world is largely as it should be - especially in 'exalted' circles.

    Wholly improperly run trials are concealed all the time by Judges rewriting transcripts I believe. I know Judge Heron did it in at least one case, and I know it for sure as I have evidence. It has just come out in todays news that another transcript (for a rape trial I think ) was tampered with.

    It seems to have been standard practise. Warp the trial, rewrite the records so it can never come to light - then prevent access to the notes by interested parties until memories fade.

    Judge Heron or Police also used the local Police Dr to do crooked stuff too. I heard him perjure myself. I wonder if that Dr (Dr V - still alive) had anything to do with Watsons stitch up. I guess once someone has been convinced to partake in corruption they can be called upon to repeat the performance anytime - as they are vulnerable then.

    I could not agree more that the legal scum should be charged and skewered. Nothing gets up my nose more than crooks in wigs. At least those wearing patches are not phoney about what they are.

    Maybe they cut free from the privy council so they would never ever again have to fear exposure in this land of kangaroo courts.

    My interest is in how the corruption is organised now. If 3 judges on the court of appeal can be convinced to get their hands dirty then who is orchestrating it. Is the rank closing within the Justice system or is it ordered from higher up? Because if it is ordered from higher up then there is no hope we can ever effectively purge the dirty lawyers.

    Police and nurses are expendable and its no skin off anyones nose to investigate, name and shame them. But Drs and lawyers seem to indeed be above reproach.

    The question I have to ask though - why, after being investigated for foul play before the Watson trial, was Heron still allowed to continue in a position of abusable power.

    (The now) Judge Saunders and I discussed the matter late 1980s or early 1990s in his CHCH office. I remember the whole conversation. There was no question Heron had a cloud over him way back then.

    Perhaps the way to bring the public round is to expose the fact judicial corruption is quite prevalent and a theme in many local high court cases.
    Two or three cases with similar M.O's is surely better than one.

    I believe a book on judicial corruption, perhaps using 5 cases with recurring themes of bent tactics, though a big project could be in order.

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    Gee, if I read the bible once will I believe everything in it? Can I please?
    I'm lost and disaffected wanting some meaning in my life other than the status quo. I need some disaffected poor soul to give me personal hope and if I can undermine the system I will feel empowered. And that man is... Scott WATSON. A truely great and wronged individual.

    God bless Scott.

    I'm absolutely certain no one has made any money from Scotts predicament to further themselves. I'm sure the author and legal funded tax sucking lawyers did it because Scotty was such and engaging fella and they owed him for back dated baby sitting duties involving their own darling kids.

    Its an absolute tragedy that girls born just prior to 1995 never had a chance to bed him, being the gentleman he is and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    I followed closely the Scott Watson trial. I think that he is an evil bugger who is probably in the right location, but I don't think that he was proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
    I find trial reports depressing so I don't pay close attention. I'd far rather spend my time chuckling at the amusing gems (intentional and otherwise) to be found on KB.

    One slight concern about the trial though was the water taxi driver's mention of a ketch being present in the bay at the time of the disappearance. One assumes a guy who spends all day on the water to have some knowledge of boats. He would presumably know a ketch from a sloop, a yawl, or a schooner. (For the benefit of inquiring minds it's about the number and placement of the masts.)

    So when he says there was a ketch there I have to believe him. The Police though apparently did not think this significant.
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    I have also read the book and was quite disturbed at what I learnt. This could have been any of us stitched up - scary thought!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littleman View Post
    Gee, if I read the bible once will I believe everything in it? Can I please?
    I'm lost and disaffected wanting some meaning in my life other than the status quo. I need some disaffected poor soul to give me personal hope and if I can undermine the system I will feel empowered. And that man is... Scott WATSON. A truely great and wronged individual.

    God bless Scott.

    I'm absolutely certain no one has made any money from Scotts predicament to further themselves. I'm sure the author and legal funded tax sucking lawyers did it because Scotty was such and engaging fella and they owed him for back dated baby sitting duties involving their own darling kids.

    Its an absolute tragedy that girls born just prior to 1995 never had a chance to bed him, being the gentleman he is and all.
    The trick to making an intelligent post is to read more posts than you write.

    Like reading the entire thread, including all the assessments of Scott as a person and the author's own email supplied by Joni, before posting.
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