TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
Perhaps by using sensible laws such as those we have in NZ that allow certain, appropriately checked and vetted, citizens the right to own pistols, rifles and shotguns of varying types.
Strangely enough... The shooting in the US, at a McD's some years back. One of the people in the restaurant at that time, decided to leave his handgun in the glovebox of his car. When the murderer entered and proceeded to shoot the place up, he did not have access to a tool that could have prevented some of the deaths.
A large amount of states are promoting the concealed carry permit. If a person meets certain criteria then they may carry, quite lawfully.
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
How so? Take away any of those factors and the crime does not happen. The idea that tipping MORE guns into a society will prevent or lessen the impact of these crimes is ever so slightly dubious (at best). Sure he could use a bomb or poisen or another weapon of math destruction (it was a technical university) but in most cases they don't... Handguns are a serious problem in the hands of the disturbed, the bitter or Americans
To every man upon this earth
Death cometh sooner or late
And how can a man die better
Than facing fearful odds
For the ashes of his fathers
And the temples of his Gods
Check out a person by the name of Harold Shipton.
UK's biggest mass murderer (approx 300 killed) and his weapon of choice
A hypodermic
"When you think of it,
Lifes a bowl of ....MERDE"
As I pointed out above, though, the main problem is that the horse has already bolted. You can't get guns out of American society.
An object lesson, perhaps? By the 1950s, nobody could put the nucular genie back into its lamp. The MAD doctrine subsequently kept the world safe from nucular annihilation for 40 years.
In a similar fashion, good guys with weapons hanging out in malls and schools, and the knowledge that there are good guys with weapons hanging out in malls and schools, can keep the aspirations of violent criminals in check.
It's unfortunate, but when you can't take away the guns that the bad guys already have, it's pragmatic.
I agree, however, that this logic does not automatically extend to societies that aren't already stuck in the morass of violence that the USA has dug itself into.
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- mikey
kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
Unfortunatly yes, wasnt so long ago that a lot more people were killed by some people with box cutters. All it takes is a little sad and demented imagination and you can fly plane loads of people into tall buildings with just the simplest of tools.
Passing the blame onto firearms shifts the blame and cause of these problems away from the actual root cause, and in this case i suspect God would only know.
It is a tragic day for mankind but this isnt the first nor unfortunaly the last of mass killing around the world
Mind you - fast food chains and tobacco companies have been killing people en masse' for years so i suppose a mere 32 is a blip..
But by arming normal people and allowing them to conceal their weapons you are giving them a vigilante like status, power will go to someones head and that will cost more lives.
Guns are far to readily available in the US. I lived there for 3 years and people were amazed that we didn't have a gun. What amazed me most about the whole thing was that they sell guns at Wal-Mart and K-Mart.
This my neighbor, Nursultan Tuleiakbay. He is pain in my assholes. I get a window from a glass, he must get a window from a glass. I get a step, he must get a step. I get a clock-radio, he cannot afford. Great success!
Oh, do fuck off with that bullshit.
If I gave you a gun to walk around with, would you ever let that 'go to your head'?
If so, you're enough of a danger to society that you certainly shouldn't be given a driver's licence. Or, for that matter, allowed to breed and raise kids.
Normal, healthy individuals do not turn into power-crazed killers just because they have access to a weapon.
This is arguably true.
kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
To every man upon this earth
Death cometh sooner or late
And how can a man die better
Than facing fearful odds
For the ashes of his fathers
And the temples of his Gods
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