Maori harmed by immigration...

**RantyDave** · 17th April 2007, 16:22

Originally Posted by Beemer

But what irks me is the fact that this is news because someone has decided it is harming Maori.

Actually I think that the cart has been put slightly in front of the horse here. Let's look at the opening line again...

"Immigration is harming Maori and pushing house prices beyond reach of first-home buyers, says a Massey University economist."

A Massey University economist. Now, researchers, professors, lecturers and other hangers on of higher education institutions don't just research whatever appeals to them this morning. Unless they're at, like, Cambridge or something but this is Massey. So job number one is to find out for what we can extract money from the government in order to continue our research and vainly attempt to gain relevance on the International stage.

Please fund: A study into the wider economic benefits of motorcyle commuting. ---No.

Please fund: A study into the affects of immigration on accountants whose last names start with the letters "P", "N" or "W". ---No.

Please fund: I dunno, something involving Maori and, ummm, first home buyers. ---Oh, Maori. Definitely. Lots of money for anything involving Maori.

And so it comes to pass that the only things that ever get researched are those which have arseloads of money sitting around waiting to be picked up.

I'd like to take this opportunity to lay into the academic standards in New Zealand's universities ... apart from Peter Gutmann ... except I don't really have the energy to do it in a creative and insightful fashion. So please just take it as read.

Dave

**JimO** · 17th April 2007, 16:26

maori are being harmed by a cant be arsed getting on with life this isnt 1860 any more attitude

**Masterchop** · 17th April 2007, 16:31

It could be that the unskilled immigrants are actually prepared to WORK for their money.

**MisterD** · 17th April 2007, 16:59

Originally Posted by Finn

Kiwi's are generally very lazy and have a poor work ethic.

Strangely enough, in London they believe the exact opposite. I have a mate who has a landscaping business who employees Kiwi labour first (and poms way last)...I guess that speaks to your point about the ones that leave, and the ones that stay.

**Finn** · 17th April 2007, 17:03

Originally Posted by MisterD

Strangely enough, in London they believe the exact opposite. I have a mate who has a landscaping business who employees Kiwi labour first (and poms way last)...I guess that speaks to your point about the ones that leave, and the ones that stay.

Yes but you must remember where we got our laziness from.

**Delerium** · 17th April 2007, 17:40

Originally Posted by Finn

What's funny about this thread is that it's normally "Immigrants harmed by Maori" so go the immigrants!!!

On a lighter note, we need immigrants. Kiwi's are generally very lazy and have a poor work ethic. The good ones have long gone and what's left at the bottom of the bucket is not worth much. A country is in a very bad state of affairs when it has such a huge welfare industry and no one to pick fruit.

Not all the good ones are gone. Iv been working since I left school, never had a benefit, hate being in debt and as a result see paying my bills a top priority. Im now studying a business degree part time and attempting to take leave without pay to study full time in order to hurry up. Although I spose you are right to an extent. Once i get my degree im looking to be part of the brain drain too. Why do people on benefits earn more than me? NZ is a low wage economy, the most difficult way to get ahead is to work hard.

**MSTRS:Me** · 17th April 2007, 17:45

Originally Posted by Delerium

....the most difficult way to get ahead is to work hard.

Usually. Best to work smarter

**Toaster** · 17th April 2007, 17:51

Originally Posted by MisterD

Strangely enough, in London they believe the exact opposite. I have a mate who has a landscaping business who employees Kiwi labour first (and poms way last)...I guess that speaks to your point about the ones that leave, and the ones that stay.

Got an englishman and a scot at work and they are the laziest people I have ever met. A mate worked in banking over in the UK for a while and couldn't believe how slack they all were.

**mstriumph** · 17th April 2007, 18:00

Originally Posted by RantyDave

..................... So job number one is to find out for what we can extract money from the government in order to continue our research and vainly attempt to gain relevance on the International stage.

Please fund: A study into the wider economic benefits of motorcyle commuting. ---No.

Please fund: A study into the affects of immigration on accountants whose last names start with the letters "P", "N" or "W". ---No.

Please fund: I dunno, something involving Maori and, ummm, first home buyers. ---Oh, Maori. Definitely. Lots of money for anything involving Maori.

And so it comes to pass that the only things that ever get researched are those which have arseloads of money sitting around waiting to be picked up.

....................

Dave

oh davey, davey, davey tsk tsk ------- the CHALLENGE is to frame your terms of reference in a way that can tap into those areseloads of money ............ f'rinstance how about 'please fund a study into the wider economic benefits of motorcyle commuting on public roads used by Maori......'

(no, don't thank me, it's a gift ..............

)

**mstriumph** · 17th April 2007, 18:01

Originally Posted by Toaster

Got an englishman and a scot at work and they are the laziest people I have ever met. A mate worked in banking over in the UK for a while and couldn't believe how slack they all were.

................ all us good ones have left?

**jtzzr** · 17th April 2007, 18:05

Originally Posted by Finn

Maori don't like competition.

What ,don`t like competition , I can`t be bothered right now arguing I`ve got some bros` coming over with some beers with the money they got at the traffic lights , then might go to the pub if my horse comes in ,Chur

**Toaster** · 17th April 2007, 18:08

Originally Posted by mstriumph

................ all us good ones have left?

Nice one. I also know a bunch of good one's too.

**Dave Lobster** · 17th April 2007, 18:15

Originally Posted by Finn

On a lighter note, we need immigrants. Kiwi's are generally very lazy and have a poor work ethic. The good ones have long gone and what's left at the bottom of the bucket is not worth much. A country is in a very bad state of affairs when it has such a huge welfare industry and no one to pick fruit.

Its the same in the UK. The good ones are leaving. And they're being replaced by pakistanis.. and (more lately) eastern european slavs.