Fitzgeralds BSB ride

[Maido]

I heard he was riding a bike in the BSB superstock, turns out he is actually riding a giant catipiller in the inagural BSB bug challenge.

http://www.crash.net/picture_view_si...pid~346311.htm

No, actually, I believe the BSB kicks off this weekend, I have looked up their website, and it is a piece of shite if you are looking to find qualifying or practice results for anything bar the main class, never mind. I am sure we will hear how he goes.

[White trash]

I think www.mcnews.com.au has the results of the BSB, even though they're an Australian site.

[Shaun Harris]

Hayden has qualified in 40th place for the Super Stock class

[Cleve]

Wow, so the British scene is as competitive as the Aussie scene??

[Shaun Harris]

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1 - Glen Richards - Yamaha - Embassy Racing - 1.30.032 - 1.30.449
2 - Hudson Kennaugh - Yamaha - Raceways Yamaha - - 1.30.071
3 - Luke Quigley - Suzuki - PDM Racing - 1.30.904 - 1.30.335
4 - Adrian Coates - Yamaha - Dyer Crossgills Racing - 1.30.880 - 1.30.532
5 - Steve Brogan - Honda - Tengo Honda Racing - 1.30.899 - 1.30.593
6 - Lee Jackson - Yamaha - Krystal Racing/Space Air - 1.31.044 - 1.30.608
7 - Gareth Glynn - Yamaha - Raceways Yamaha - 1.31.728 - 1.30.895
8 - Adam Jenkinson - Suzuki - Rocket Centre Racing - 1.31.420 - 1.30.927
9 - Kieran Murphy - Suzuki - Goldstar Suzuki - 1.31.427 - 1.31.065
10 - Ben Wilson - Suzuki - Windmill Suzuki - 1.31.146 - 1.31.082
11 - James Rose - Suzuki - Shaun Rose Racing/ACU - 1.31.111 - 1.31.182
12 - John Laverty - Ducati - Buildbase Ducati - 1.31.684 - 1.31.203
13 - Richard Wren - Yamaha - Rockforge Racing - 1.31.238 - 1.31.417
14 - Howie Mainwaring - MV Agusta - Bullet Racing - 1.31.299 - 1.31.673
15 - Steve Mercer - Yamaha - The Bikeshop Faversham - 1.31.434 - 1.31.332
16 - John Ingram - Suzuki - SMT/Ingram Racing - 1.31.913 - 1.31.524
17 - Les Shand - Yamaha - Les Shand Racing - 1.33.057 - 1.31.541
18 - Ryan Rainey - Yamaha - TMR/Tillston Motorcycles - 1.31.621 - 1.31.642
19 - Marshall Neill - Suzuki - Neil Racing - 1.32.081 - 1.31.636
20 - Jon Kirkham - Ducati - Samsung Superstock Team - 1.32.445 - 1.31.766
21 - Stephen Thompson - Suzuki - T&R Motorsport - 1.31.983 - 1.31.958
22 - Dan Stewart - Yamaha - Wilcock Consulting - 1.32.631 - 1.31.958
23 - Martin Buckles - MV Agusta - Bullet Racing - 1.32.236 - 1.31.971
24 - Kieran Clarke - Ducati - Buildbase Ducati - 1.33.052 - 1.31.972
25 - Kenny Gilberston - Kawasaki - Astro - KS Kwasaki - 1.32.068 - 1.32.333
26 - Paul Veazey - Yamaha - Krystal Racing/Space Air - 1.32.083 - 1.32.227
27 - Daniel Hegarty - Yamaha - Ace Yamaha - 1.32.571 - 1.32.273
28 - Matt Whitman - Yamaha - Team STP Racing - 1.32.367 - 1.32.888
29 - Allan Jon Ventor - Honda - Hydrex Honda - 1.32.592 - 1.32.374
30 - Bob Collins - Suzuki - 2 Bob Racing - 1.32.435 - 1.33.070
31 - Rob Guiver - Suzuki - SP125 Racing/Superstock - 1.32.481 -
32 - Gary Johnson - Yamaha - Speedfreak Racing - 1.32.698 - 1.32.721
33 - Craig Beggs - Yamaha - Enviro-Strip UK Racing - 1.33.231 - 1.32.700
34 - Callum Ramsay - Yamaha - Dyer Crossgills Racing - 1.33.930 - 1.32.733
35 - Joe Dickinson - Ducati - Revolution Motorsport Ducati - 1.34.072 - 1.32.775
36 - Denver Robb - Suzuki - Mar-Train Racing - 1.33.607 - 1.32.899
37 - Victor Cox - MV Agusta - Team STP Racing - 1.33.051 - 1.32.926
38 - Jimmy Storrar - Suzuki - Jimmy Storrar Racing - 1.33.458 - 1.33.037
39 - Dave Hewson - Kawasaki - JJR - 1.35.412 - 1.33.516
40 - Hayden Fitzgerald - Yamaha - NCT/Vanfit Yamaha - 1.33.576 - 1.33.643
41 - Graham English - Suzuki - Tiva Engineering - 1.35.779 - 1.33.773
42 - Lee Johnston - Suzuki - Virginia Hire Suzuki - 1.35.224 - 1.33.969
43 - Pete Spalding - Yamaha GR Motosport/Team Scan - - 1.33.969
44 - Darren Fry - Ducati - Clarke & Strong Racing - 1.34.859 - 1.34.025
45 - Michael Pensavalle - Ducati - WL/MP Racing - 1.34.450 - 1.34.071
46 - Alastair Seeley - Yamaha - NCT/Vanfit Yamaha - 1.34.340 - 1.34.629
47 - James Edmeades - Yamaha - Speedfreak Racing - 1.34.880 - 1.34.987
48 - Ian Parking-Coates - Ducati - Carr Grange Racing - 1.36.740 - 1.35.182
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[Shaun Harris]

Wow, so the British scene is as competitive as the Aussie scene??

No mate, much more competitive

[Cleve]

No mate, much more competitive

Bloody hell... so how come Aussies make it on the world stage in better numbers than the poms do? No don't answer that... I know... the Aussie attitude thing

[Brian d marge]

Just watched the superstocks at donnington , it was a great race ,,better I might say than the wsb that followed , now forgive me if I am wrong , but the commentator said these bikes were stock bikes , changes were to the exhaust and Ecu

The bike that won was a Yamaha R1 ,,, now cant you buy those over the counter at your local Yamaha dealer ???

The grid was FULL ...as in FULL and the racing was goooood

Just a thought as ,,in NZ the same ole same ole keep up the front ,,, due to costs one expects ( and some serious talent in a few )

So why dont we make our National class , a super stock class and have street races mixed in ,,
So a young lad could afford that 5000 for tyres /fuel plus bike ( and insurance ,,The car pulled out mister and I cartwheeled the bike ,,no I wasnt racing and yes it was registered ,,,once )
and it would give young riders an idea of the level of commitment needed to do well

( they had factory teams at Donnington ,,all nicely turned out and presented ,,couldn have cost much as all they could have changed was the exhaust and map ) !!!

And please allow the use of telemetry ,,,u dont have to use it in the race ,,but its a handy tool !!!

Stephen

[Shaun Harris]

This is Hayden's first time at this track as well, never been there before, I would predict a top 20 finish

[Shaun Harris]

Just watched the superstocks at donnington , it was a great race ,,better I might say than the wsb that followed , now forgive me if I am wrong , but the commentator said these bikes were stock bikes , changes were to the exhaust and Ecu

The bike that won was a Yamaha R1 ,,, now cant you buy those over the counter at your local Yamaha dealer ???

The grid was FULL ...as in FULL and the racing was goooood

Just a thought as ,,in NZ the same ole same ole keep up the front ,,, due to costs one expects ( and some serious talent in a few )

So why dont we make our National class , a super stock class and have street races mixed in ,,
So a young lad could afford that 5000 for tyres /fuel plus bike ( and insurance ,,The car pulled out mister and I cartwheeled the bike ,,no I wasnt racing and yes it was registered ,,,once )
and it would give young riders an idea of the level of commitment needed to do well

( they had factory teams at Donnington ,,all nicely turned out and presented ,,couldn have cost much as all they could have changed was the exhaust and map ) !!!

And please allow the use of telemetry ,,,u dont have to use it in the race ,,but its a handy tool !!!

Stephen

Stephen, the Superstock rules are the same as our sports production rules

Telemetry, No way mate, far to exspensive for a kiwi racer, and if you do not have the experience of working with it, it is a complete waste of time

[White trash]

And please allow the use of telemetry ,,,u dont have to use it in the race ,,but its a handy tool !!!

Fuck off! I don't even know what a compression damping adjuster looks like, what the hell am I gonna do with a laptop full of data?!

[TonyB]

Yeah I'm almost glad my race bikes have virtually no suspension adjustment, less chance of buggering it up more than it already is

[JayRacer37]

I'd kill for telementry....espescally after having worked with it on the 250 in my Avatar.

[steveyb]

A good comparo is between Haydie and James Rose. James is the bloke that beat Haydie in the ACU Star championship last year. James has raced at all the British circuits quite a few times and has some serious backing. He is also a bit of a meat axe rider!!! As they say over there Fast as fook! Likely that he will have been doing some serious testing recently on the bike he is racing, not like Haydie, having to catch up from zero. And yes, British scene is competitive as all buggery, but mainly with regard to numbers. Check out some of the names in the SuperStock list, many have been racing BSB level before. Typically a budget for Superstock for one season in the UK will set you (or someone!!) back the best part of 30-40k pounds.
I know, I saw it first hand when I was with Haydie last year, the gear some of these guys have is outrageous.

I wish you lot would shut the f up about cheap class this and budget racing that. If it is too dear, stick to quilting or stamp collecting. Motorsport costs money and that is that. Find your own budget, then have a go within it.

Superstock racing in the UK is more expensive than Superbike racing in NZ by quite some distance. If you have not experienced it, find out some facts first ay?

[Brian d marge]

Superstock racing in the UK is more expensive than Superbike racing in NZ buy quite some distance. If you have not experienced it, find out some facts first ay?

well its been nearly 20 years since i was a mechanic , in Britain , a lot has changed one assumes , But the commentator did say that the only thing allowed to be changed was the ecu and the exhaust ,,,,
now I know and you know that there is probably 101 things one can do if you have the money ,, blue printed , dynoed engines , tyres ,,, and the cost of entry which is higher in the uk ,What I would like to see is the level of professionalism evident overseas to be the same in NZ, I am aware of all the pros and cons , but I really would like to sea more Paeroas , wanganuis , with ( well financed teams ..)

Now super stock , has the same rules as our sports production, so this would mean that as far as HP wise they are going to be similar so there should be a very real possibility of someone with talent from NZ , going to Britain and going ok ( was going to say well ..but I am aware what other teams have )

Just thought , just how much of that money spent directly translates into lap times,

A question I have is though , whats the difference between the superstock ( Europeans I was watching ) and BSB ( British Superbike ) I assume bsb allows more scope for tuning

Now on a lighter note , i was watching wsb , at donnington , the commentators said it was one of the first rounds to be held 20 years ago.....I think i was there ,,and have a photo ..does that make you feel old or what !!!!

Stephen