Arrests made at Wellington Dawn Service

[Steam]

WHAT??? Are you high??? Where did that come from??? And when did Anti-Labour automatically become Pro-National???

Read post 9 on page one of this thread. But you're right about the anti-labour / pro-national thing though, one does not imply the other. Although usually it does. I have added an edit note to my original post to clarify.

[Colapop]

Who cares about politics? FFS this is about shit stirrers who will always be shit stirrers. This is a day for those who wish to remember and be thankful show their respect. If you want to protest, do it some other day, stand for government. Assholes are just trying to be assholes... and they did a good job of it too.

[pzkpfw]

What do these doorknobs think they are achieving?

Someone will hear an air-horn and think "hey, yeah, war is bad"?!?!

Besides, if you want a good anti-war opinion, go ask the men, women and children who have been there!

I know it's trite, but I guess this is what that freedom we have has gotten us. Somehow these Doorknobs feel their freedom to express their opinion is more important than the freedom of the thousands who were there to pay their respects.

Typical left-wing hypocrisy.

Cheers,

[Mully]

Read post 9 on page one of this thread. But you're right about the anti-labour / pro-national thing though, one does not imply the other. Although usually it does. I have added an edit note to my original post to clarify.

OK. I am enough of a man to admit I had a brain melt and didn't realise that was a verbatim report of the vandals.

As for being Green supporters. Most of them hate the government also, but the party were so desperate to be in power, they got into bed with the enemy. I know several Green supporters (Don't hate me for that, hate me because I'm a prick) who will not vote for them again because they got into bed with Uncle Helen.

Either way, still entirely wrong to do anything like this. I hope they are ashamed when they look at their actions in the light of day.

I need coffee. As you were.

*Stomps off to make coffee*

[Sniper]

Fucken shameful. I would be utterly ashamed to ever have known those people

[Steam]

Here's the press release from the protesters... But I would like to say I do not support their actions and I think it was totally inappropriate. So don't attack me, I'm just the messenger. I have a military-wannabe bike. I like war.

ANZAC Day Protest - Lest we forget: already forgotten

Members of Peace Action Wellington (PAW) demonstrated at the Wellington ANZAC Day dawn service this morning, displaying banners that said "Lest We Forget: Already Forgotten - Afghanistan, Solomon Islands, Timor Leste" and "Conscientious Objectors: the real war heroes."

"ANZAC Day has ceased to be a day where we commit to 'never again', and has instead become nothing less than a celebration of the New Zealand military and the glorification of war," said Valerie Morse, Peace Action Wellington member.

"Lest we forget that the New Zealand military is currently engaged in combat in Afghanistan, the Solomon Islands and Timor Leste. Lest we forget that the New Zealand military is currently deployed in 18 different missions around
the world."

"Lest we forget that the military has, and always will, exist for the sole purpose of waging war," said Valerie Morse.

This morning's demonstration also marks the launch of Peace Action Wellington's 'NZ Troops Out Now' campaign. For further information about the campaign, go to www.nztroopsoutnow.org

"Peace Action Wellington demands the immediate withdrawal of all New Zealand troops and the cessation of all military training and joint exercises with other armies," concluded Valerie Morse.

[Mental Trousers]

Bad form. The cops should've tazered them.

[James Deuce]

Visited the website.

You'll note that there is no right of reply.

[Madness]

What a bunch of self-righteous wankers. What's the bet that some of these protesters themselves had great-grandfathers that served in the wars of the 20th century. They voice their opinions at the expense of those who gave their lives for freedom. Sentence them to Community Service at their local RSA I say.

[Pixie]

So they were National party supporters then? Certainly anti-labour. Hmmm... another reason for me to not vote National.

EDIT: Oh I just found out they are Green supporters. So please ignore this post.

generally ignore Labourite drivel,anyway

[Donor]

info@nztroopsoutnow.org

Feel free to return your sentiments... lord knows I will be.

[Paul in NZ]

Charge them with treason or something - self agrandising wankers who would doubtless reform the Nazi party if they thought they had a shot at the leadership.... Both sides of my family payed a price in blood during WW2 and the survivours would be the least war like people you could imagine. They were horrified by war and shed tears openly at the memories and the aftermath in places like Dresden but the simple reality was - they could not afford to do nothing. Evil does exist, and it exists in the hearts of men and those men need to be stopped. Often that stopping involves good men doing bad things and while the dead pay with their lives, the survivours also pay a great price. A lifetime of memories and a weight on the soul that never diminishes. War is not a light thing and if you need the proof - wander this country slowly and look at the memorials placed in all corners of this land - erected by the living in thanks - there is a LOT of them.

Argue all you want about the morality of war but it happens and will always do so and old soldiers don't generally want a repeat of the situation. To behave so on this day is a shabby act, especially given the multitude of opportunities in modern democracy for us to speak our minds. It is a very poor show to try and denigh the dead their day of rememberance and the chance to speak their stories. For shame on these people, no matter how noble their motives, their self ego and aggression is the greater evil here.

[Donor]

Why not use Uncle Helens favourite - charge the bastards with sedition.

From Wikipedia:

Sedition is a term of law to refer to convert conduct such as speech and organization that is deemed by the legal authority as tending toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel.

I'm no legal mind, hell I'm barely in my own long enough to check the answering machine, but we have to nail these sods, and this looks feasable...

[Patriot]

Today I am riding my Harley to the memory of this day dedicated to all those who had served and fell in battle.I agree we talk of how sweet we got it and stuff like that but in the end remember that people like you and me fought for peace and died.In my little corner of the world I never want to see what my elders saw.Not me or any of my childrens, children.

" Lest we forget "

[MD]

And the Govt. is thinking about removing sedition as a crime. Just in the nick of time these two wankers stand up as proof that we can still find just reason to hang worthless pieces of shit masquerading as humans.
I didn't go to the local ANZAC service today to defend anything that these 'past-their-use-by-date-left-over-hippies' claim that the day is about.

Their false statement that it is about 'lest we commit again' is rubbish. It's never been about that. Ás Paul said it's about paying respect to brave and selfless young men and women that gave up their lives or put their lives at risk to defend what they felt was worth defending. These idiots can't try and judge with their 2007 values (which appear to be non-existent) what was judged worthwhile 65 or 93 years ago. I respect and am truly grateful for what our previous generations have done for us. THAT'S WHY I GO TO ANZAC SERVICES.
Burning our flag is disgraceful behaviour on any day but so much worse to try and hijack ANZAC day for your own agenda. Today belongs solely to the war vets, lest we forget [ their sacrifice for us]