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    Quote Originally Posted by Steam View Post
    So they were National party supporters then? Certainly anti-labour. Hmmm... another reason for me to not vote National.

    EDIT: Oh I just found out they are Green supporters. So please ignore this post.
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    They werent the only ones causing trouble. We were on the parliment side next to the road. Some wasps were disturbed in the native grasses on the bank and at least 30 people were stung including some kids who were really screaming. I saw people patting there pants etc, the wasps while the people were standing i the long grasses had climbed up the inside of their pants and stung them. Not good.

    I put my hand on my wife, not seeing a wasp on her shoulder so I got stung, and flicked another that was crawling on her head. At an event which is usually somber, in the dark since you couldnt see the wasps the little area of chaos seems almost comedic. People couldnt work out what was going on.

    As for the protesters, they are self inflated self righteous egos that, like christians, muslims and honda riders, think that their opinion and belief is above all others and they have to impress it on others.

    I am offended and pissed they should choose such a time to protest but I do vigorously support their right to protest. Pity they show no respect to those who fought and died so that they could have that right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    Doesn't matter what the message is. The people/person who did it need to suffer. You people voted for the Government we have now. There is a process for changing it.

    The message does not make it right, and the lads who died would no more sanction the defacing of a memorial because someone wanted a bit of a public whinge, than fly to the Moon wearing puttees.

    I hope the stinking vandals get jail time.
    Here, here. Onya Jim2.

    There are more appropriate (less selfish and 'look at me') ways of protesting against war - like you said government decides where, when & how we go to war, or peacekeep...the NZDF is just the means of delivering that decision. Go lay yourselves on parliament steps...

    Therefore, how very wrong and immature to disrupt a service of remembrance for those who died doing what was asked of them. One can only hope that these people mature with age (although looking at the age of the bloke, this could take some time).

    It never ceases to amaze me that these sort of people just don't get it...ie if NZ didn't contribute then where would we be now?

    ANZAC is not, n o t, NOT a celebration, or glorification of war. It is a symbolic remembrance of those who died to do the right thing and what they were asked to do.

    These people should be exposed to the modern defence force, and quickly they will find that they are thoroughly professional, with an integrity beyond most other professions.

    To them I say "You've had your 15 seconds of fame - now go and do something productive with your lives..."
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    All this talk of hanging them or shooting them, or sending them to concentration camps, that's far more disturbing than the actions of the dumb protesters. (if you really mean it.)
    That's Nazi stuff / Communist Russia / Today's China / North Korea / Iraq under Saddam.
    If you want to live in a country where people aren't free to piss off other people by doing dumb shit like those dicks did this morning, go to one of the abovenamed countries.

    For Craps Sakes, that's what the servicemen were fighting for, democracy and freedom. Protesting in public and saying stuff you don't like - however inappropriate and insensitive - is a part of that. Sure they should go before a judge for disturbing the peace or spraying graffitti, but to kill them? Nah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steam View Post
    ANZAC Day Protest - Lest we forget: already forgotten

    "Lest we forget that the military has, and always will, exist for the sole purpose of waging war," said Valerie Morse.

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    No shit Valerie - YOU are very likely here because somebody somewhere in the past was prepared to die defending our way of life.....without 'military' how would you have been here?

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    Yeah I agree string them up.
    ANZAC day is the one day ALL kiwis stand together as one and remember those who fought to make our nation what it is today.
    Shame on them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steam View Post

    For Craps Sakes, that's what the servicemen were fighting for, democracy and freedom. Protesting in public and saying stuff you don't like - however inappropriate and insensitive - is a part of that. Sure they should go before a judge for disturbing the peace or spraying graffitti, but to kill them? Nah.

    Aarg!
    No it isn't and the servicemen I know most definitely did NOT serve their country for people who've had nothing worse than having to have 2 weetbix for breakfast instead of 3 happen to them, to use the blood they spilled to make a political point on the one day we solemnly remember the sacrifice they made for a couple of Political and Economic Empires. The wider context has obviously escaped you and them.

    Being a citizen of a country has responsibilities that these losers are utterly unprepared to shoulder. I have no problem with the message. The protest they ran at Te Papa was exemplary.

    Doing what they did on ANZAC Day was the lowest form of base insult that could possibly be perpetrated. People do not die for their country so people can "choose" to exercise their "free speech" on one of two days in the calendar year that should never be messed with, days that we put aside differences to remember people who allowed us to maintain those differences. It is at the very least discourteous and undignified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    However, anger towards these idiots is not, in my view, the answer cause I imagine those that fell will feel sorry for them and know that they have the respect of those who care, even if for a day.
    Fuck off. These cunts need a beating and an education that a vet would give them if they were around today. Fuckers! I wish I was present when these arsesholes of society started their mini-parade!
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    ...and the cessation of all military training and joint exercises with other armies," concluded Valerie Morse.
    Valerie, you really need to to grow up.
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    As for the protesters, they are self inflated self righteous egos that, like christians, muslims and honda riders, think that their opinion and belief is above all others and they have to impress it on others.
    Have some rep for that retarded comment. You are insulting people in more ways than one. Grow a brain for fucks sake. You think all "XYZ-brand" riders are going to be affiliated with certain terrorist organisations???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    1. Fuck off. These cunts need a beating and an education that a vet would give them if they were around today.

    2. Have some rep for that retarded comment. You are insulting people in more ways than one. Grow a brain for fucks sake.
    Okay.

    1. No need for that Sir. They have done some good stuff in the past and they just didn't think this one out.

    2. I agree, not all Christians, Muslims think their beliefs are above all others etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steam View Post

    "Lest we forget that the military has, and always will, exist for the sole purpose of waging war," said Valerie Morse.


    "Peace Action Wellington demands the immediate withdrawal of all New Zealand troops and the cessation of all military training and joint exercises with other armies," concluded Valerie Morse.
    Ummm have they noted one of the main aims of our new ships is fishery protection to ensure our resources aren't raped by other nations and remain sustainable, and disaster relief?


    Why cut training with other Armies? What about other Navies....... We are to small a military to support all the required training we need.

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    I stopped getting upset over tossers years back. They were arrested. They will get charged convicted and this will be on their record for the rest of their lives. They may think this is no big thing at the moment but the past has a way of catching up. Some call it 'just deserts.' I call it karma.

    On another note I see that ACT, the Maori Party, United Future and the Greens have all called for the repeal of the sedition laws.

    Will more of this sort of thing happen if the sedition laws are repealed?? To be honest I don't know.............???????????

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    I hope the protesters get cancer in their reproductive organs. This way they won't be able to breed while they suffer a long and agonising death.

    I beached myself on the coach today watching the History channel on war. Fuck, we don't know how easy we've got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manxman View Post
    ANZAC is not, n o t, NOT a celebration, or glorification of war. It is a symbolic remembrance of those who died to do the right thing and what they were asked to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    1.No need for that Sir. They have done some good stuff in the past and they just didn't think this one out.

    2.I agree, not all Christians, Muslims think their beliefs are above all others etc.
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    You can't have a rational discussion with people who are comfortable with desecration Alex, neither do they have a rational grip on what constitutes the role of the Modern NZ Navy, Army, or Air Transport Corps, oops Air Force.

    That discussion is not something that should be aired on ANZAC day.

    I will never give another cent to any Hippy organisation as a result of this disgusting grandstanding. Ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colapop View Post
    Who cares about politics? FFS this is about shit stirrers who will always be shit stirrers. This is a day for those who wish to remember and be thankful show their respect. If you want to protest, do it some other day, stand for government. Assholes are just trying to be assholes... and they did a good job of it too.
    I agree, yes everyone has the right to protest peacefully, but their behaviour was disorderly and disrespectful to the veterans and soldiers lost in the wars past as they commemorate those that lost their lives.

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