You can't have your cake and eat it too

**Finn** · 27th April 2007, 08:44

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/3/...ectid=10436393

350 jobs go at Fisher & Paykel. The lefties and academics will blame F&P for being corporate pigs. The more sensible amongst us will be saddened by this and angry at what this government has done to NZ.

There's not much hope for the future of NZ. We're just too far south to grow coconuts.

**Big Dave** · 27th April 2007, 09:01

Originally Posted by Finn

There's not much hope for the future of NZ.

Utter &*@% crap. I'm here.

**Squeak the Rat** · 27th April 2007, 09:08

Well there certainly isn't much hope for NZ manufacturering.

So what are we going to do for exports - ie trying to balance out the trade deficit? Agriculture sure, but thats a lot of eggs in one basket.....

**sAsLEX** · 27th April 2007, 09:16

Originally Posted by Squeak the Rat

Well there certainly isn't much hope for NZ manufacturering.

So what are we going to do for exports - ie trying to balance out the trade deficit? Agriculture sure, but thats a lot of eggs in one basket.....

Icebreaker.

You need to add value to a product and do something that SE Asia cant copy.

Then there is the chance to be successful.

**ManDownUnder** · 27th April 2007, 09:22

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

...do something that SE Asia cant copy....

While I agree... Good luck with that one.

Yup, bloody sorry to hear that, and I'm sure this isn't the thin end of the wedge... just a household name being affected so it goes to air. I work for an exporter (software) and while it hurts us, we don't have the logistics to worry about.

Shipping product is cheap.

NZ needs to get smart, take a long hard look at what we have and use it to our advantage. Cut back on the cushy lifestyle so many have come to rely on, put money into growth industry, R&D and do something with a strategic focus... not election year to election year.

Our Govt are a short sighted self serving pack of drones keen to keep themselves in a job. meanwhile 350 people (that's 2 1/2 times the number of MPs...) get laid off at a stroke and NZ loses out.

Here's a radical idea. Lay off the MPs... the lot of 'em. Put in place someone not afraid of being unpopular with the non contributing cash sucking needy, put in place some infrastructure... blah blah blah.

Yeah yeah - button pushed.

**sAsLEX** · 27th April 2007, 09:24

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Put in place someone not afraid of being unpopular with the non contributing cash sucking needy, put in place some infrastructure...

"Democracy" as New Zealand institutes it will see this Govt. last only a few years!

**Finn** · 27th April 2007, 09:30

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Utter &*@% crap. I'm here.

Excellent. You can capture the demise of NZ with your camera.

**ManDownUnder** · 27th April 2007, 09:32

So how do I start my own Country?

Can I go dump a shit load of rocks and dirt somewhere the ocean's not too deep and name it after me? I'll print my own money, make my own stuff and do a Japan. Few natural resources, but cunning... add value!

IT, design... etc. complete R&D freedom aaaaaaaaaaaaaa yes. Nirvana.

Shame I know fuck all about the economics of it, but that might be to my advantage!

**sAsLEX** · 27th April 2007, 09:35

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

So how do I start my own Country?

Can I go dump a shit load of rocks and dirt somewhere the ocean's not too deep and name it after me? I'll print my own money, make my own stuff and do a Japan. Few natural resources, but cunning... add value!

IT, design... etc. complete R&D freedom aaaaaaaaaaaaaa yes. Nirvana.

Shame I know fuck all about the economics of it, but that might be to my advantage!

The guy who invented the electronics behind Segway and the dialysis machine essentially did that, has his own Navy and everything....

North Dumpling Island
Dean Kamen's home on North Dumpling Island
Dean Kamen's home on North Dumpling Island

Kamen owns the small North Dumpling Island off the coast of Connecticut, and has "declared" the island to be an independent state. Along with its own currency in increments of Pi, and an entire government whose positions include the minister of ice cream. His home (pictured) is located on the west side of the island. An assembly of pillars resembling Stonehenge is located near the house, although its function and significance are currently unknown. Also, a windmill can be seen in the right side of the picture, presumably to provide power, although it is often observed to be locked in a stationary position. In Spring of 2006, an amphibious vehicle, similar to a WWII DUKW, was observed parked next to one of the buildings on the island.

**Finn** · 27th April 2007, 09:39

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

You need to add value to a product and do something that SE Asia cant copy.

Advanced driving schools?

**Swoop** · 27th April 2007, 09:39

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Can I go dump a shit load of rocks and dirt somewhere the ocean's not too deep and name it after me?

Tricky.
Remember who owns the land/rocks and the seabed....

**ManDownUnder** · 27th April 2007, 09:40

Originally Posted by Swoop

Tricky.
Remember who owns the land/rocks and the seabed....

Yeah - me... Ngati Whitefulla

**sAsLEX** · 27th April 2007, 09:41

Originally Posted by Finn

Advanced driving schools?

Health and Safety rules in the workplace?

Workers rights?

**Finn** · 27th April 2007, 09:41

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Can I go dump a shit load of rocks and dirt somewhere the ocean's not too deep and name it after me? I'll print my own money, make my own stuff and do a Japan. Few natural resources, but cunning... add value!

Worked in Dubai.