Best allround 250 sportbike?

[Dave-]

ZXR250C

preferable from 1991 or 92 bit they're all sexy

[Roki_nz]

ZXR250C

preferable from 1991 or 92 bit they're all sexy

most of the 250 from 91-92 etc all seem to be thrashed, old and overpriced, not to say they are not good bikes though...

[Maki]

most of the 250 from 91-92 etc all seem to be thrashed, old and overpriced, not to say they are not good bikes though...

I have trouble understanding this obsession with 250 bikes. If you want a sports bike, why not get 600cc or more? A modern 600 is pretty light, if that is what you are after.

If you are only allowed a 250 because you have a restricted or learners licence, then my advice is be patient and wait till you get a full licence.

[Roki_nz]

I have trouble understanding this obsession with 250 bikes. If you want a sports bike, why not get 600cc or more? A modern 600 is pretty light, if that is what you are after.

If you are only allowed a 250 because you have a restricted or learners licence, then my advice is be patient and wait till you get a full licence.

Yeap Some of the 600cc are only 20-30 kgs heavier than there 250 cousins

[captain_andrey]

You can always get a Hyosung and 'look' like you have a 600
.... 1 more month on restricted....

[idleidolidyll]

Hey all, looking to buy a 250 sport bike. Wondering your opinions on the best allround bike... Value for money? Best performer? Best engine/drivetrain? Reliability? Resale value? Interested to hear your comments. I am lead to believe that a CBR250 is generally considered to be one of the best? Which leads on to my next question... what is the difference between a CBR250 and a CBR250RR? Is it all cosmetic or is there mechanical differences as well?

All input appreciated. Cheers!

IMO there's only one bike that rates as "best 250 sportbike": The Aprilia RS250.

Nothing else comes close and 2 strokes are cheaper to recondition and WAY cheaper if something goes wrong.

60+ horsepower and 130kg kicks ANY 4 stroke 250 ass.

See Chris Haldane in Auckland, he seems to have the market almost cornered on RS250's.

[nudedaytona]

IMO there's only one bike that rates as "best 250 sportbike": The Aprilia RS250.

Nothing else comes close and 2 strokes are cheaper to recondition and WAY cheaper if something goes wrong.

60+ horsepower and 130kg kicks ANY 4 stroke 250 ass.

See Chris Haldane in Auckland, he seems to have the market almost cornered on RS250's.

Totally agree.

And Mt Eden Motorcycles have a couple as well last time I checked.

Every time I hear people raving about an 80s CBR250 I laugh.

The RS250 is the most modern of the two-strokes as well - last manufactured in 2003. You can still get ones with less than 10,000km on them if you hunt around. And theres lots you can do with them to increase power if you're so inclined.

Otherwise try Suzuki RGV250 or Honda NSR250 - both almost as good.

[svr]

Good 2 stroke road bikes are about 8 seconds a lap faster round a track than the best four strokes. Faster = better, so 2 strokes are a lot better.

[Maki]

Yea, temperamental 2 strokes are fantastic, if you love smoke and frequent rebuilds. If you want hp, get more displacement.

[idleidolidyll]

Yea, temperamental 2 strokes are fantastic, if you love smoke and frequent rebuilds. If you want hp, get more displacement.

what, as opposed to aprilia SXV550's?

hilarious!
2 strokes are simpler, lighter, faster, cheaper to rebuild and cheaper to fix if they lunch themselves.

cost of ownership over say 5 years is usually way less.

[idleidolidyll]

Here's a really good comparison between 2 stroke and 4 stroke:

http://twostrokemilitia.jfn3.com/tsm...-104-lores.pdf

Basically when you ask about 'sport bikes', you're looking for a power to weight ratio at the sport end of performance coupled with a good chassis, brakes and geometry for 'sporty' riding.

When comparing the two types, first find similar power levels for the same cc rating.................oops! you can't?

That's because 2 strokes make around 70% more power than a 4 stroke (size for size) and weigh substantially less.

an example of note is the Aprilia SXV bikes. These 4 stroke race motos make 60-70HP out of 450 and 550cc. They require incredibly frequent servicing and cost a fortune to run and a bigger fortune if they blow.

By comparison, the Aprilia RS250 is almost the same power to weight ratio at less than half the cc and costs bugger all to maintain by comparison.

[Maki]

what, as opposed to aprilia SXV550's?

hilarious!
2 strokes are simpler, lighter, faster, cheaper to rebuild and cheaper to fix if they lunch themselves.

cost of ownership over say 5 years is usually way less.

Ridicuous!
Who said anything about the aprilia SXV550?

My point is that I would much rather have a 600cc sportsbike from Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki or Yamaha than some Italian 250 two smoker. If you prefer smoke, rebuilds and bikes that are likely to "lunch themselves", fine.

[CB ARGH]

what, as opposed to aprilia SXV550's?

hilarious!
2 strokes are simpler, lighter, faster, cheaper to rebuild and cheaper to fix if they lunch themselves.

cost of ownership over say 5 years is usually way less.

Plus they're really good if you have a small penis, it fits right into their seriously undersized exhaust pipes.

[idleidolidyll]

Ridicuous!
Who said anything about the aprilia SXV550?

My point is that I would much rather have a 600cc sportsbike from Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki or Yamaha than some Italian 250 two smoker. If you prefer smoke, rebuilds and bikes that are likely to "lunch themselves", fine.

The thread was 250 Sport Bikes.
The point made is that to get the same power to weight as the RS250, you'd be looking at a highly temperamental expensive 4 stroke of almost double the capacity.
600cc 'sports bikes' are fat and overweight and both the RS250 and Aprilia SXV550 would kick their arses on twisty roads.
(forget the bullshit about 160kg dry weight, that's irrelevant. Those 600 things are 180-190kg ready to ride but almost empty of fuel.)

[idleidolidyll]

Plus they're really good if you have a small penis, it fits right into their seriously undersized exhaust pipes.

dunno, never tried

i'll take your word for it weener