We will have to wait for another report by the sandal wearers titled, 'uniqueness of gang and teenage violence and the impact it has on the New Zealand landscape' (or similar) before we can tackle any of these issues.
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We will have to wait for another report by the sandal wearers titled, 'uniqueness of gang and teenage violence and the impact it has on the New Zealand landscape' (or similar) before we can tackle any of these issues.
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I have a couple of thoughts on this... and the first is the obvious - what a hell of a waste of life, and terrible thing to happen to the victims families.
The other thoughts I have are these...
There are always two sides to a story. I'm convinced we only know one, and I'd be very surprised if the other side of the story mitigated what happened... but in the absence of that other side it's impossible to fully draw any conclusions about the rights and wrongs of everyone involved.
The other things is my incessat suggestion to put the little buggers through boot camp. Army style, no mercy... boot camp. Those that have been there swear it's a good thing (I haven't personally - but I've seen some pretty impressive results, and I've seen no "failures" per se!)
Boot camp.
Anyway - that is all...
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Boot camp is a yank term, we call it "Basic" training here. Having been through it, I have to agree with you MDU, it certainly makes responsible young men out of slack arse teens.
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Only if you're allowed to beat the shit out of the weak links.Originally Posted by terbang
It's only when you take the piss out of a partially shaved wookie with an overactive 'me' gene and stapled on piss flaps that it becomes a problem.
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Yeah well, things may have changed since the 70's but it certainly worked then.
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I agree. When the army stamped on bullying, it went soft..
When I left, there were little wankers coming out of training that couldn't even pass a BASIC fitness test. Girls that hadn't passed a single fitness test in their life.. fucking madness.
It's only when you take the piss out of a partially shaved wookie with an overactive 'me' gene and stapled on piss flaps that it becomes a problem.
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Apparently they've switched off life support for one of the other victims, due to too much brain damage, so it'll be three dead soon.
I have a hard time conjuring up sympathy for teens that travel around parties that they weren't invited to, simply because someone texted them the address. If that is not the case, wtf were the people doing trying to run a party for 300 people in suburbia? They are just as guilty as the driver... how could they not see a riot coming?
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The interview with one of the girls mother and brother, on tv3 last night, was very good. They were coping but ovbiously shocked beyond belief.
Why is is becoming more common for some tosser with an attitude and a small dick, to go and get a weapon (cage) and run down partygoers?
+1 vote for Boot Camp.
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Isn't that the point of some of the moron video games?
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Interesting comment. When I was there I never really saw what I would call bullying but I did see a few people that were letting the 'team' down, get rapidly straightened out. That's life..! I in no way support bullying though I agree there may be a fine line between it and asserting change upon a weak link in a group or team situation. I certainly believe that there is an element in our society today that doesn't have a real grasp on reality, therefore the consequences of their actions. This could possibly stem from a combination of a society that cannot, when required, raise its voice anymore when saying "NO" (lack of recognisable boundaries) and the ever present glorification of reckless and violent behaviour that we get dished up to our living rooms, via the TV medium, on a daily basis.
Or is it because we have just been through a full moon period.
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Wouldn't know, since I don't play them or have a "games" console.
If the driver was trying to score points by having multiple attempts at running people down....
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Anyone have a link to the girls bebo profiles?
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thats what hitler did.
Giving the army the pfoblem is NOT the answer. It ties up their resources that could better be used for people that want to be there. Read a book called phantom over vietnam. it has a chapter dedicated to this sort of problem and the effects of the draft, which is exactly what you are proposing.
However I do agree that the PC BS needs to disappear somewhat.
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What causes that type of behaviour?
Has it increased over the years or did we just forget our history?
Guess there's always been nutters, maybe society makes more of them now though. Either way the only "cure" I've ever seen work is the teaching of self discipline. Imposed from without as required, to start with, until the habit forms within. Maybe there's a place for compulsary team training, military or otherwise, perhaps even for everyone.
That's the opposite direction to how we teach kids nowadays, we're told to treat kids in ways that protect them from consequences. I can't blame parents, I know too many good people who have nightmare kids. The schools seem breeding grounds for poor behaviour and mediocrity. Where's the middle ground between free expression and social responsibility?
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Why the hell did three news have a woman on who was blaming the crowd for being on the street just as she had trouble driving thru earlier, others implying the victims were maybe being racist toward offender (victim blaming to reduce his responsibility) based on txts which told Asians and gangsters to stay away. Followed by the murderers brother saying what a nice guy he is just a few days after he goes on a BAD rampage?
No other media in the world would give one minute to killers / rapists brothers cheerleading. Its indecent.
Why is it suddenly kosha for murderers and police rapists brothers to go on National news (or Campbell live) just to say how nice their relly is?
Why are they trying to soften the public (and maybe victims) up for reduced charges or a light penalty or something...
I am seriously disturbed by the medias ethics. They also reported that one of the killed girls parents feels sorry for the killer. This is a usual stage for victims (called "trauma bonding") that is in the later stages replaced with other emotions.
Ethical journos should know this and not be reporting it. They seriously serve up some irrelevant and sometimes extra irresponsible mush these days.
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