Joe Karam

**Patrick** · 16th May 2007, 00:21

Originally Posted by Pussy

was very handy on the rugby paddock as well

NOT!!! Crap fullback who couldn't tackle for shit... wasn't called fancypants for nothing...

**peasea** · 16th May 2007, 06:47

Originally Posted by pritch008

I believe some members of that Appeals Court that the Privy Council took to task are now on the Supreme Court. What chance a similar finding from our home grown old boys club? Not much...

If you're right about those members moving up (and I don't doubt you) we're right up the old creek. Our justice system appears to be in need of a size large cleanup as it is, I don't fancy the thought of it getting worse. That appeals court got so much so wrong and at whose expense? The lawyers, scoundrels, bounders and blaggards in the main, are laughing all the way to the bank with our money! There's more than one "substantial" miscarriage of justice here.......

Does anybody else smell 'rat'?

**Dooly** · 16th May 2007, 07:32

Kudos to him and his perserverance.
A good deed done.
I hope if Bain gets a good payout he helps Karam out.

Would'nt Joe spew tho if for some reason Bain died early and on his death bed confessed to the crimes!

**Skyryder** · 16th May 2007, 09:38

Originally Posted by Dooly

Kudos to him and his perserverance.
A good deed done.
I hope if Bain gets a good payout he helps Karam out.

Would'nt Joe spew tho if for some reason Bain died early and on his death bed confessed to the crimes!

Karam has Bain's story rights. He won't need Bain's help.

Skyryder

**Dooly** · 16th May 2007, 09:54

Originally Posted by Skyryder

Karam has Bain's story rights. He won't need Bain's help.

Skyryder

Ahh, and quite the best seller too I imagine, when the time is right.
Just before Xmas/M/F days etc.

**Hitcher** · 16th May 2007, 10:24

Oh good grief! This isn't/shouldn't be about Joe Karam. The Privy Council, when presented with a submission about the Bain trial, decided that there was sufficient doubt about the way evidence was presented (or not) in that case to warrant the quashing of David Bain's conviction.

The reason that this ended up in front of the Privy Council is because the Court of Appeal process in New Zealand was resolute in upholding the conviction, despite the case made by Mr Karam and others.

What is the crime in championing a case where you believe there to be a significant miscarriage of justice? Surely people like Joe Karam should be celebrated for their efforts? He certainly didn't do it for the money, as it is extremely unlikely that David Bain will ever receive a formal pardon -- the only mechanism that would allow him to seek compensation for wrongful conviction.

**Macktheknife** · 16th May 2007, 10:33

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

I say he's a man that didn't give up the fight for a cause he believes in - even in the face of extreme adversity

QDOS to him for that.

Couldn't agree with you more mate.

**Skyryder** · 16th May 2007, 11:43

Originally Posted by Hitcher

What is the crime in championing a case where you believe there to be a significant miscarriage of justice? Surely people like Joe Karam should be celebrated for their efforts? He certainly didn't do it for the money, as it is extremely unlikely that David Bain will ever receive a formal pardon -- the only mechanism that would allow him to seek compensation for wrongful conviction.

And that is why there will be no retrial. A not guilty verdict would allow for compensation proceedings.

It will be interesting to see what the Crown Law Office recommends in light of the strong opposition to bail.

Skyryder