Police admit their complete incompetence

[R6_kid:Me]

I've said it once, and i will say it again. Send in the Army - full tactical styles. Sort the fuckers out, do it once, do it right. If any gangsta really thinks they cant combat fully trained professional soldiers then we are all fucked to be honest.

[nallac]

I've said it once, and i will say it again. Send in the Army - full tactical styles. Sort the fuckers out, do it once, do it right. If any gangsta really thinks they cant combat fully trained professional soldiers then we are all fucked to be honest.

+1 on that
Go in all guns blazing

its time the goverment got rid of this pc crap and got tough on real crims
like us 111ks speedsters

[Grahameeboy]

+1 on that
Go in all guns blazing

its time the goverment got rid of this pc crap and got tough on real crims
like us 111ks speedsters

Bit like that gang shooting when a kid got accidentaly shot you mean......

[slowpoke]

Yep, classic case of shooting the messenger.
Gangs are a tricky issue the world over and the police are obviously limited in their ability to deal with the problem (through a variety of reasons), as are enforcement agencies all over the world.
They are just passing on some helpful information. Would you rather not know?

[sAsLEX]

Um - how can you possibly blame the Police for doing a bad job in raising these little pricks? How is it the Polices fault that they bring them before the court and they get put back on the street. How is it the fault of the Police that housing NZ gives the shitheads a gang house when families can't get one?

There is a lot of bad shit going on here but its not police incompetence.

Why should the public not be able to go along a public road?

The police are there to uphold the law not issue warnings on where the law is not being upheld.

I realise there is systemic failures in NZ society leading to shits like this being more common these days but thats not what the thread was about......

Maybe a few less HP and a few more general duties cops would help the situation?

[spudchucka]

How can Police have a trespass order against them for a Mob property?? I have never heard of his before. Unless they have taken trespass orders on individual officers?? Even then I find it hard to believe this can be done?

Wheres the cops.. good question I think

I'm aware of gangs trying this tactic against police, not sure of its effectiveness though. A trespass notice can't be issued to the entire NZ Police, (as far as I'm aware) and I doubt very much that any court would issue any sort of harrasment order in favour of a gang over the police.

Further more a trespass notice wouldn't prevent a cop from going onto a property to carry out a lawful duty, (like recovering a stolen car). Therefore I'd suggest that there is more to the story than what's been presented here.

My guess would that if the car was located on private property they would have needed to acquire a search warrant before they could legitimately enter the property.

[spudchucka]

when the f%#@&%k is the government gunna get behind the police and the judicial system and deal with these arseholes like they deal to little granny stealing hair removing cream ??(that was in court pages once hehe)

Shit.... there's a unique concept, blaming somebody other than the nations police for society's problems.

[spudchucka]

So does that mean for example, I can get every police individuals name in my area, and trespass them from my property? Leaving them open to arrest should they set foot on my drive? Well we know where to hide if you were to do a runner then eh? Thats why its seems implausable that Police can be trespassed.

Individual cops are no different to any individual, they can be issued trespass notices.

[sAsLEX]

Shit.... there's a unique concept, blaming somebody other than the nations police for society's problems.

I think the main problem is there is simply not enough cops out there...... thanks Helen!

Individual cops are no different to any individual, they can be issued trespass notices.

But can you ignore one in the line of your duties?

[spudchucka]

I think the main problem is there is simply not enough cops out there...... thanks Helen!


But can you ignore one in the line of your duties?

Yes, we need more cops but not having enough staff does not equal the complete incompetence of an entire organisation. Your headline is bullshit!

A trespass notice issued against an individual cop would not prevent them from entering the property in the lawful execution of their duty. However, it would make sense to assign the job to a cop that wasn't trespassed from that address, in order to simplify matters.

[sAsLEX]

Your headline is bullshit!

Aren't most? Sensationalist to drag in readers, with the truth hardly coming in to the equation......

[Winter]

Public beheadings.

I honestly think you'd only need a small number of these to send the message.

KB for gummerment! Lets stage a coup!

[Pixie]

Um - how can you possibly blame the Police for doing a bad job in raising these little pricks? How is it the Polices fault that they bring them before the court and they get put back on the street. How is it the fault of the Police that housing NZ gives the shitheads a gang house when families can't get one?

There is a lot of bad shit going on here but its not police incompetence.

The events you list are not the Polices fault.
However, the police bosses, turning around and saying it is too hard, is their fault.
They should be harrassing the gangs with every power they have.
When the courts set the bastards free, the cops should be waiting to bust them as they leave the court.They should have health inspectors to check their houses,council staff to check that they have permits for alterations to their residences,dog control officers etc.
I'm sure it won't be hard to find some criminal activity.
It should be extremely inconvenient to be in a gang.

[Grahameeboy]

The events you list are not the Polices fault.
However, the police, turning around and saying it is too hard is their fault.
They should be harrassing the gangs with every power they have.
When the courts set the bastards free, the cops should be waiting to bust them as they leave the court.They should have health inspectors to check their houses,council staff to check that they have permits for alterations to their residences,dog control officers etc.
I'm sure it won't be hard to find some criminal activity.
It should be extremely inconvenient to be in a gang.

Trubs is they may then go underground.

To be honest, it makes commonsense not to go anyway dodgy. You don't need the Police to tell us that but good on 'em for caring.

[PuppetMaster]

I think the main problem is there is simply not enough cops out there...... thanks Helen!

Prob to busy having to arrest parents for smacking their kids


Smacking was obviously not part of these little gang kiddies disipline regime, and look how they turned out!!!