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    I was unemployed for a day.Walked out of my business on the friday,and on the monday walked into a local business....talked to the owner for 2 hours about everything but a job.....we settled on pay and he said I could start anytime,so started a month later.Career wise some might say it's not a forward step,and although I've run my own business and other peoples for over 20 years,I'm not managment material.I prefer to do the job myself rather than tell other people how to do it for me.I don't consider myself very employable and have no CV.....no problems,just walked into the job I decided I wanted.I suspect you are selling yourself,and aiming too high.Just get a job,cut the undecypherable babble.....talk the real talk man.
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    Haha I know ring telecom and tell them you know how to screw the Govt .

    Bet they give you a job, In six months when they ask you how to Screw the govt, just tell em that first you ask a politician for a date, then you wine and dine , then you take em home .....Whallah 1 times govt screwed.

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    How strong is your Sales Management exposure?
    Do you happen to have an in-depth understanding of the HCV (heavy comm. vehicle) industry?
    Consider yourself to have a bit of mongrel in you?

    Couple of jobs available where I work, but looking for specific skills.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by beyond View Post
    Thanks for the comments, the support, the green, the PM's.

    You lot are brilliant.

    To answer the questions and comments I'll nick the opening paragraph off my CV:

    "Objective

    To harness and channel extensive work and life experience into providing a key management role to any business. My aim is to effectively enhance functionality and business work practices with the goal being to ultimately increase business productivity. This is to be achieved through a hands on management style, driven by a strong and passionate work ethic, tempered by a sensitive nature and natural human empathy."

    I can do just about anything and have tried many different fields over the years too.
    PM sent for you to consider
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    Quote Originally Posted by beyond
    "Objective

    To harness and channel extensive work and life experience into providing a key management role to any business. My aim is to effectively enhance functionality and business work practices with the goal being to ultimately increase business productivity. This is to be achieved through a hands on management style, driven by a strong and passionate work ethic, tempered by a sensitive nature and natural human empathy."
    too many nice words... walk in there with a gun... point it and say "im the f*cking man, i get the job or you die... capiche!"

    ok, maybe not but you're a relatively good looking guy (coming from another 100% straight dude)... maybe try pimping for a bit, or you could be a man ho and keep all the money for yourself!

    Hope something comes to fruition soon mate, seems that the good guys always have to work the hard yards to get where they should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beyond View Post
    To answer the questions and comments I'll nick the opening paragraph off my CV:

    "Objective

    To harness and channel extensive work and life experience into providing a key management role to any business. My aim is to effectively enhance functionality and business work practices with the goal being to ultimately increase business productivity. This is to be achieved through a hands on management style, driven by a strong and passionate work ethic, tempered by a sensitive nature and natural human empathy."

    I can do just about anything and have tried many different fields over the years too.

    Sorry to hear the news about your situation mate.
    You appear to have a back ground similar to mine....been in middle management all my life.
    I to have just been made redundant for the 2nd time in 3 years. Last time it took me 7 months to find a job.
    Thing is don't let it get you down, it is just life just deal with it the best you can that's all you can do, some thing will turn up it always does.
    At present I am driving a truck and putting up road signs for my old company for $14/hr( I used to supervise these guys) bit different to my past salaries I can tell you but it keeps food on the table and I can still ride the bike.
    Mind you I don't have a mortgage or any debts.
    Stay positive mate your a cool dude and it will work out I am sure.

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    You never know what'll turn up, usually when you're not looking for it or when you least expect it. I got a way-cruisy job (sure, it has it's moments of stress, but it's pretty cool really) just up the road from home nearly five years ago.

    I do 20 hrs there and make the rest up from home. Been basically self employed since 1989 except for that one permanent part time job.

    The two scariest days of my life were the day I opened the door of my own business and then the day I closed it again nine years later. I went from spanner man to pen pusher pretty much overnight; I wasn't happy with what I was doing under cars and I took property magnate Bob Jones's words to heart....."If you don't like your circumstances, change them". I did that and I'll never forget Bob's words. For more work I also did a lot of 'cold-calling'. No vacancy advertised but you never know..........I picked up heaps that way....

    You'll get something mate, good people are never out of work for long.

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    Gday mate, sorry to hear of your troubles.

    For what it's worth - here's my 2c:

    In-line with other peeps recommendations here - the intro you kindly posted is superfluous waffle, and says nothing really about you, other than you're well-read, and you're probably related to Hitcher.

    I've employed dozens of managers over the years, and to be honest I'd reject your CV straight away, without getting past the intro.

    Be cogent, concise, and talk proper English, none of this 'helicopter view' shite. You come accross as somewhat arrogant, and a waffler, which I'm sure you're not in real life, and you'll probably scare off many potential employers due to the vague word-smithery in your CV.

    Let your experience do the talking, and ignore almost everything recruitment consultants tell you.

    Good luck.
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    Cut all the waffle out of your CV. The people reading them will have read heaps of them just like it and think your just another one of the people trying to make yourself sound fancy.

    They are just looking for experience and qualities. None of which includes making things long winded and make no sense.

    Just figure out what they are looking for, say it in plain english and put in your history to back it up.

    Dedication to a company for 28 years with a huge range of positions, gaining a greater overview of how all the processes fit together should be put far ahead of waffle.

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    From Beyond CV

    Thanks for the constructive criticism.
    Yeah, better to meet the Employers expectations head on than get fluffy with the recruiters

    This any better:

    Objective

    As the Employer, you will no doubt want to hire a suitable candidate who will fit in with your Company’s work ethic and be able to get along with your current staff.
    Just as important is the fact that you will want somebody who will at least help to maintain but preferably improve your current annual profit levels.

    I want to make sure that you achieve these aims. With twenty eight years of experience in the same company, covering just about every role and pushing far beyond my own comfort levels to gain an overview of how all processes fit together, I sincerely believe that my appointment will benefit you greatly.
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    Little better, think it’s still pitched at HR level. That might get you an interview but to get further you need specifics. The manager who will make the decision won’t read far into an intro to find facts, he’ll bin it and move on. Brief personal statement, work history, conclusion. End.

    It's worth getting your hands on a JD (or any other bit of information about the company) before you submit your CV, then spend all day lining up their wish-list with your experience and qualifications.

    EG:
    "Applicant should have experience in negotiation and management of service and supply contracts...."

    I am experienced with all aspects of technical service delivery through over ten years in several technical rolls with **** Ltd. and extensive involvement with Operations Management of **** Ltd. supplying **** services to the **** industry. Experienced in the development and management of technical support services through my roles as **** with **** Ltd where I was responsible for securing and managing service contracts throughout New Zealand.

    If you can match 80% of your experience to their requirements you’ve got one foot under the desk before you even get to an interview.

    Luck dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beyond View Post
    I can do just about anything and have tried many different fields over the years too.
    Hey mate,

    Im too lazy to read the whole thread but...

    Are you tied to NZ. Have you "out of curiosity" browsed or applied for jobs abroad? Just a thought.

    Best of luck.
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    Hi Dude
    I have my own business but if i had to shut shop i would work at MDs or push a broom in a supermarket if i had to to keep my family home
    I have considered at times to throw it all in and mow lawns to get away from the stress This is what makes humans so dam clever we Adapt So adapt for a while untill something better comes along, you may enjoy being a slob for a bit and itll keep food on the table
    Good luck

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    Good luck mate, something will come up. Just stay positive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Little better, think it’s still pitched at HR level. That might get you an interview but to get further you need specifics. The manager who will make the decision won’t read far into an intro to find facts, he’ll bin it and move on. Brief personal statement, work history, conclusion. End.

    It's worth getting your hands on a JD (or any other bit of information about the company) before you submit your CV, then spend all day lining up their wish-list with your experience and qualifications.

    EG:
    "Applicant should have experience in negotiation and management of service and supply contracts...."

    I am experienced with all aspects of technical service delivery through over ten years in several technical rolls with **** Ltd. and extensive involvement with Operations Management of **** Ltd. supplying **** services to the **** industry. Experienced in the development and management of technical support services through my roles as **** with **** Ltd where I was responsible for securing and managing service contracts throughout New Zealand.

    If you can match 80% of your experience to their requirements you’ve got one foot under the desk before you even get to an interview.

    Luck dude.
    The above is good advice. When dealing with HR or direct to the company do your research and tailor your CV. When they read it they will check off their wish list easier if the appropriate points are emphasized. You don't have to bullshit too much, your level of experience should have enough breadth to cover most areas if you are looking at the right jobs. Getting to the interview stage can be the hardest part. If you do put forward your general CV (through a recruitment agent for example) keep your opening statement to the point and about you. For example:
    In work and play my goal is always to improve any task or process I do. This means I constantly strive to find the best way to tackle any problem. That statement says "I don't sit on my arse, I work hard and smart"
    What you do and what your are with a little bit of what you want from a company. What you can give should be in your job history.
    Good luck dude.

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