Thanks VMCC volunteers

[ajturbo]

Qualifying for F2 fastest lap was 1.14 The race fastest lap was 1.24 .

wow .. most of the Street Stock could have gotten in!!

[roadracingoldfart]

Great debate going here.

I unfortunately can't comment as I didn't stay upright long enough to truly find the grip level of the track.

Well done to the organisers and marshals. That was definitely the best run meeting I've yet been to.

Some may say you didnt stay up for long but when it comes to "race starts"
you got more of those in than most hehe.
By the way , what a huge blue spark you created entering turn one. And when you ran to the bike you still beat the last 3rd of the field into turn one ,so well done. (make mental note to not take WT on in a running race with leathers and helmet on ) If LeMans starts are brought to VMCC he will be unbeatable.

[Nicksta]

lol Paul... you should ask him how many fights he has won too

[Grub]

What the hell is wrong with Taupo????? I've ridden thousands of laps there in all sorts of conditions with no real problems. The only offs I've had were due to pushing things, not track conditions. Get over it and learn how to ride to the conditions....

Mate, if you weren't there, don't comment. For you to bag experienced (and careful) riders is just stupid and reflects badly on you, not them.

[ajturbo]

while we are on the subject....

i want to thank mel again.. because..

luke was out there,
steph was out there
I was out there
and
there were others out there

that had NO IDEA how to "read" the track..
sure we all knew it was cold...

but that was all we knew about the track..

and thanks to mel and the other experenced rides..

we stayied

SAFE!!!
and now are able to race the NEXT round

[HDTboy]

Mate, if you weren't there, don't comment. For you to bag experienced (and careful) riders is just stupid and reflects badly on you, not them.

He was there, is he allowed to comment now?

[Nicksta]

Mate, if you weren't there, don't comment. For you to bag experienced (and careful) riders is just stupid and reflects badly on you, not them.

dude... where were you?
Death was there.... and has a world of experience.... so this just reflects badly on you!
its called riding to the conditions and its something inexperienced and experienced riders need to consider.... i did.. and i stayed shiny side up ...and so did Death...

[Shaun]

There wasn't an 'unsuitable' tyre for the track. At no point was there a layer of standing water, it was never 'wet'. Using a wet tyre in those conditions would have been worse after about two laps, cause it would have been torn apart. So long as a tyre has temprature, in those conditions, tread and pattern of tread can only have up to "5% influence on outright grip" (from Conti attack range designer). If there isn't standin water, there is no point having tread.

someone said about that the racers didn't mind the wet; just the unpredicability - exactly. Wet is fine - not knowing whether this corner is the same as the last is not.

Crashing on the first lap IS understandable in those conditions, as grip was NOT at a level that is acceptible - lower than a crappy piece of out state hiways in similar conditions, and not good enough.

Someone also asked about the paint compared to the pits - one and the same. Rediculous. And Dangerous - the inconsistancys are crazy.

Also, on the exit of turn 4 (just after going over the top of the hill) there is a black patch that is a repair; it covers most of the track for about ten meters. This has the same gri pas the paint and is unavoidable. Every lap I rode over it and had BOTH front AND rear let go till I got to the other side of this repair.

Taupo Circuit needs some MAJOR suface workto bring it to what I would consider to be an acceptible level for racing on. THEN we can worry about the neumourous dangerous walls.

NOW - who keeps bagging Puke?? its a padded playground compared to this place. Taupo's only blessing is that its speeds are so slow. Which also makes it kinda boring.....can we just go back to Manfeild please

+1 M8

This post above by Jay, is spot on!

You all know who he is, and what he can do on a bike, for -uck sake listen to him.

Taupo track is a shit hole, full stop

[roadracingoldfart]

+1 M8

This post above by Jay, is spot on!

You all know who he is, and what he can do on a bike, for -uck sake listen to him.

Taupo track is a shit hole, full stop

Yea and no amount of toilet paper will clean it up. Your dead rite Shaun.

If ther place had more track grip at least you could circulate with a bit more confidence tro stay away from the bad bits.
Try to visualise the pathetic chicane thing to get back to the back straight on T2 being acceptable to an overseas organisation or rider. (Insert TUI advert here).

Mind you if anybody is old enough to have done the old Hamilton street circuit then they will remember we had the pedestrian pathway that linked the track back to the other side. It had a couple of drain trenches and a lovely garden on both sides. Now that was dangerous. Those were the days aye .
Cheers Paul.

[ajturbo]

He was there, is he allowed to comment now?

dude... where were you?
Death was there.... and has a world of experience.... so this just reflects badly on you!
its called riding to the conditions and its something inexperienced and experienced riders need to consider.... i did.. and i stayed shiny side up ...and so did Death...

wow grub..... feel like ya been told off enough???
err what corner were you on?.. at least at manfeild you can see the faces of the flaggies as you hoon past....( well at the speeds i ride i have heaps of time to spot the flaggies)

[flame]

+1 M8

This post above by Jay, is spot on!

You all know who he is, and what he can do on a bike, for -uck sake listen to him.

Taupo track is a shit hole, full stop

I havn't had a lot of track experience, but I have had tonnes of road experience, and all I can liken Sundays track too was when you hit the shiney patches in the rain on the road, only you coudn't see the blardy things. It was all I could do just to circulate pretty slow and keep my bike upright, less than confidence inspiring after binning my bike there two weeks earlier. Yep.....bring on Manfield

[GSVR]

Not so sure about all this bring on Manfeild stuff. As you may know the Manfeild track is going to be modified and resurfaced this winter so you may find yourself riding on seal that was put down the day before the racing.

Anyone know what its like to ride on new wet bitumen? Probably like Taupo when it first opened.

Personally I like the Taupo track but agree with the comments about some of the walls being a bit close. Haven't seen any bales placed there though so it can't be considered that much of a biggy yet.

[scracha]

its called riding to the conditions and its something inexperienced and experienced riders need to consider.... i did.. and i stayed shiny side up ...and so did Death...

Now to be fair there's an element called "luck". Like when I used to ride to Edinburgh in snow and ice. If I got there upright it wasn't just due to "riding to conditions", it involved a fair amount of "luck".

[Nicksta]

Now to be fair there's an element called "luck". Like when I used to ride to Edinburgh in snow and ice. If I got there upright it wasn't just due to "riding to conditions", it involved a fair amount of "luck".

this is true..... i do believe out on the track that, well, someone's on my side to help me out.... if you want to call it luck...
but i do believe people push their luck sometimes too and end up crashing..... ihave a healthy respect for luck...

[Shaun]

Not so sure about all this bring on Manfeild stuff. As you may know the Manfeild track is going to be modified and resurfaced this winter so you may find yourself riding on seal that was put down the day before the racing.

Anyone know what its like to ride on new wet bitumen? Probably like Taupo when it first opened.

Personally I like the Taupo track but agree with the comments about some of the walls being a bit close. Haven't seen any bales placed there though so it can't be considered that much of a biggy yet.

The difference will be, that the people that do the work at Manfeild, Know what they are doing, the peole that did the work on Taupo, obviously, did it to a budget, and have used crap product