Thanks VMCC volunteers

[scrivy]

Getting into this thread, I think you're all nuts!!
How can you mad buggars race around on just two wheels in all conditions??
You're all braver than me!! Don't beat yourselves up as to experience vs inexperience. You all deserve a pat on the back!! How many people have the balls to do what you guys do for fun?

(I still need training wheels to get around a track.) oh, and a co-pilot

[ajturbo]

Agree with the above, accept for the facilities?

The place was an absolute PIG STY! All the rubbish bins were full to over flowing, they need to clean the place up, you cannot hire some thing to some one, and hand it over in that condition, it was a joke

THAT was my first thought when i turned up at 7.30.... next was, we must be too early for the rubbish people....


on a side note... how many crashes in the SS class??????...ummmmm errrr

NONE!!!!!

why is that?

knees were being scraped. (not mine)
spits were seen on visors.. (mine... on the OUT side)
brakes were aplied at the wrong time..(mine)
gears were changed.... down instead of up....... woops (rg's CAN rev to 16k!!!!!!)

[HDTboy]

This is what created the dirt and mess on the track around T7.

Kyle key crashing in the first F2 race did that. I was watching it from behind

[Nicksta]

well, thanks again to VMCC for organising a efficient smooth event....
heres the times on Mylaps:
http://www.mylaps.com/results/showevent.jsp?id=210180

(ps. gav... the dirt was there in practice inside and outside...)

[sAsLEX]

Why dont they have a "Womble" machine come and sweep the track before an event?

Or a high pressure water blaster/cleaner machine like Airports and large malls have? I see cost would be a problem but its a once off cost basically?

something like this http://www.euromec.co.uk/aquadyne_scrubbers.html

[GSVR]

Why dont they have a "Womble" machine come and sweep the track before an event?

Or a high pressure water blaster/cleaner machine like Airports and large malls have? I see cost would be a problem but its a once off cost basically?

something like this http://www.euromec.co.uk/aquadyne_scrubbers.html

Maybe Taupo doesnt get enough rain or something. The track probably has the highest usable of any track in NZ at the moment and possibly many of these events are allowing vehicles without catchtanks and radiators full of glychol overflowing.

Also I could just imaging some old classic car going round the track for 4 hours on the same line every lap dropping a couple of drops of oil at the same point each lap. Hardly noticable but the accumulative effect after 200 laps would not be trivial.

Personally I think maybe all the track needed was a good dose of rain. But one thing I did notice on pitlane was the white painted lines where like soap when wet. Hope the ones on the track aren't like that too.

Those overflowing rubbish bins where not on. If they can't even empty them between events someones job should go. Surely they have a staff member to check if everything is ok before the next organisation hiring the track comes along.

[sAsLEX]

Maybe Taupo doesnt get enough rain or something. The track probably has the highest usable of any track in NZ at the moment and possibly many of these events are allowing vehicles without catchtanks and radiators full of glychol overflowing.

Also I could just imaging some old classic car going round the track for 4 hours on the same line every lap dropping a couple of drops of oil at the same point each lap. Hardly noticable but the accumulative effect after 200 laps would not be trivial.

Personally I think maybe all the track needed was a good dose of rain. But one thing I did notice on pitlane was the white painted lines where like soap when wet. Hope the ones on the track aren't like that too.

Those overflowing rubbish bins where not on. If they can't even empty them between events someones job should go. Surely they have a staff member to check if everything is ok before the next organisation hiring the track comes along.

So wouldn't a road cleaner like in that link solve the problem of requiring rain? And leave the whole track more uniform? and just take a volunteer an hour or so to do in the morning, and make cleaning up after a spill/drifters/incident much easier

and negative points are that it costs , but with the amount of use the track gets they are making a bit of dosh on it , and this will mean a better experience for all

but hey what would I know

[roadracingoldfart]

I think it was your assumption that everyone who went down was inexperienced and going too hard that rankled...

Bugger ----- i just dont remember stating inexperianced and certainly didnt insinuate or assume.

If you crash at turn one of a race then please dont ever think that you knew what the track was like as it IS only the first turn. I know you can crash by being taken out by another rider but that is differant and i accept thats a reason to slap whoever did it to you but falling like some did on turn 1 , 2 or 3 was just too fast too soon for the condition of the track.

[skelstar]

If you crash at turn one of a race then please dont ever think that you knew what the track was like as it IS only the first turn.

Dude, one of the riders that crashed on turn one will be more gifted at riding than 99.9% of any other rider on this site (at least).

Its pretty hard to make sweeping generalisations about how people crash eh?

[sAsLEX]

Dude, one of the riders that crashed on turn one will be more gifted at riding than 99.9% of any other rider on this site (at least).

Its pretty hard to make sweeping generalisations about how people crash eh?

That Elias guy crashes at the first corner yet where is he in the world scene compared to most?.............

[speed63]

A big thank you to the organisers. It is tough to make an unpopular decision. I was disappointed but understand the decision was made with the best interest of the riders in mind.

I thought the running of the event was tops and in particular, people giving up their time so that others could have some fun.

Cant do much about the weather. Being a winter series I guess you can expect greasy cold conditions, spesh in Taupo

Hope those hurt heal well

[robertydog]

Cheers to the volunters on the day. There were first timers out there waving the flags and i got to say they did a good job.

[moT]

The other side of the coin is many inexperianced riders on various spec bikes stayed upright for the same reason i have already stated, they rode to their limits and the track conditions.
27 bikes went down out of how many actually competing ????
Ya just cant beat the maths.
If i crash in the dry it was most likely my fault. If i crash in the wet its most likely my fault and if i crash on a slipery oily track its not my fault , is that what your saying ???.
Hell some people trip over on a flat piece of concrete but can do an ironman run on 2 feet all the time so wheres the balance!!!. Ahhhh yer its the comfort zone extension init . We are humans and can cock it up and embarress ourselves.

Very well put the ppl that crashed were not riding to the conditions and the conditions where that it was wet and slippery but you still can go fast for those condtitions

[Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)]

Who were the two volunteers from Napier - could you please PM me. Many thanks.

[GSVR]

So wouldn't a road cleaner like in that link solve the problem of requiring rain? And leave the whole track more uniform? and just take a volunteer an hour or so to do in the morning, and make cleaning up after a spill/drifters/incident much easier

and negative points are that it costs , but with the amount of use the track gets they are making a bit of dosh on it , and this will mean a better experience for all

but hey what would I know

The Taupo track actually has/had an aircraft engine (jet) mounted on the back of a trailer. Don't know if its operational or not and it would only be good for drying the track really.

Whats a road sweeper going to do to remove oil? Almost nothing I would say. And anything bad would be spread out more and made worse.

The 4 hour car race is on My Laps. Seems there wheren't alot of entires.