Farking boy racers

[terbang]

Pity the touchey feeley wasn't around when I was a teen out west. Then the locals (bunch of farmers) just beat the shit out of my mates and I and threatened worse, including burning our cars, if we came back. Message wisely taken.

[Ocean1]

I suspect that the Gummint will make third-party insurance part of the rego cost, rather than pfaffing around relying on people to acquire their own.

Probably. Could wish they didn't, they don't do such things very well. Better perhaps to simply require proof of insurance before issuing the registration. Common enough tactic overseas I believe.

[Grahameeboy]

Probably. Could wish they didn't, they don't do such things very well. Better perhaps to simply require proof of insurance before issuing the registration. Common enough tactic overseas I believe.

It is in UK.

In Jersey, you have to show your Insurance Certificate in the window, like you do the Rego and I think an Insurance firm in UK does something similar

[jafar]

Maybe, don't know how it would affect Insurer's and who would run it...maybe like Aussie, however, problem is that Insurance is a small market here and you could not apply it to say Commercial Vehicles.

Maybe when you apply for Insurance you need to show proof of Insurance.....if no proof you pay extra on Rego.....

What rot, most if not all commercial vehicles have full insurance as well as public liability etc. More than your average car or motorcycle has.
There is no reason for 3rd party insurance not to be compulsory, if you can't afford it then catch a bus.

[bell]

Trubs is that Insurers will look closely at suspect 'Boy Racer' accidents so some Boy Racers may ee in breach of their Policy Conditions so will not cover the damage to the poor innocent.

Plus the Govt may need to consider an Insurance Pool to cover uninsured drivers....like the Motor Insurers Bureau in UK which came about when min TP Insurance was brought in in 1974.....

In Western Aust they have an Insurance Commission. Seems like they have a fair number of eventualities covered with this. Taken from their blurb in a brochure outlining what CTP is:

The Insurance Commission will:
• manage any claims for personal injury made against you or the driver of your vehicle, on your behalf.
• pay any compensation awarded to the injured person, or the deceased’s dependants.

The Insurance Commission is obliged by law to meet the claims of injured third parties even though the driver or owner whose negligent driving caused the injuries may have breached the warranties and conditions of their CTP policy, or the vehicle does not have current registration (ie. is unlicensed and is therefore uninsured).

If the vehicle is unlicensed or there are breaches of the policy, the Insurance Commission may seek to recover the money paid to the injured party from the uninsured/negligent owner/driver.

When are the warranties and conditions breached?
ALCOHOL…
when the vehicle is driven by or is in the charge of a person with a Blood Alcohol Concentration level that is over the legal limit.
NO DRIVER’S LICENCE…
when the vehicle is driven by a person who does not hold an appropriate and currrent motor driver licence.
UNSAFE …
when the vehicle is being driven in an unsafe or damaged condition.
USED FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE
THAN IT WAS LICENSED FOR...
For example, a vehicle registered as a private car cannot be used as a fare-collecting taxi.

[Grahameeboy]

What rot, most if not all commercial vehicles have full insurance as well as public liability etc. More than your average car or motorcycle has.
There is no reason for 3rd party insurance not to be compulsory, if you can't afford it then catch a bus.

I know but when linking to Rego this applies to commercial vehicles too so you need a way to deal with this.

I know most if not all commercial vehicles have full cover. That is not what I was getting at which is why I suggested the showing of Insurance otherwise you pay an extra rego.

I agree with last bit, just raising how Insurance Companies would handle it....I come from UK so believe that Insurance should be compulsory.

[MSTRS:Me]

That's excellent, Bell.
But ACC still covers personal injury. Whereas the insurance being 'discussed' in this thread is for property damage.

[Grahameeboy]

That's excellent, Bell.
But ACC still covers personal injury. Whereas the insurance being 'discussed' in this thread is for property damage.

Well food for thought but with Compulsory Insurance maybe the ACC should be able to seek recovery (limited) from the negligent drivers Insurance..........in UK, the Hospital can recover limited costs from the Insurer, including ambo cost which is a fixed amount.

[jafar]

I know but when linking to Rego this applies to commercial vehicles too so you need a way to deal with this.

I know most if not all commercial vehicles have full cover. That is not what I was getting at which is why I suggested the showing of Insurance otherwise you pay an extra rego.

I agree with last bit, just raising how Insurance Companies would handle it....I come from UK so believe that Insurance should be compulsory.

You have answered your own statement, most if not all commercials have full cover so the problem doesn't arise, if they don't have full cover then they will be caught @ rego time as well no problem there.
The problems will come from unlicensed drivers & or unregistered vehicles being involved in crashes & the insurers declining to cover.
Ditto drunks etc.

[McJim]

The problems will come from unlicensed drivers & or unregistered vehicles being involved in crashes & the insurers declining to cover.
Ditto drunks etc.

That's what Prisons are for....and the Criminal Injuries compensation Board..which doesn't actually exist in NZ but should for property damage....

[jafar]

That's what Prisons are for....and the Criminal Injuries compensation Board..which doesn't actually exist in NZ but should for property damage....

Back to where we started then, the troublesome few getting away with it & leaving the innocent to cover the cost.

[Shadows]

Don't get me wrong. I fucking hate boy ricers. They piss me off no end with their bullshit music resonating through my chest cavity at the lights, the diesel that they leave on the roads, their general on-road behaviour. Some of the shit I've seen them doing has been pretty dangerous.... but at the same time a lot of them seem to be reasonably capable drivers who can handle a car better then most of the retards out there.

I would like to see the stats.

How many injuries and deaths are caused by boy ricers in the isolated incidents that get blown out of proportion by the media... and how many are caused by pensioners / drivers of white vans / SUV driving soccer mums / drivers wearing hats / recidivist pissheads / foreign tourists?

Boy ricers are a just small part of a much bigger problem. They are not responsible for the bulk of the road toll. Under 25's do feature more regularly, but remember not all of these are boy ricers. A lot will be kids who never learnt how to control the skid that put them in the wrong place at the wrong time in the first place - something boy ricers learn very early on.

I used to hoon around a lot... (hell, sometimes I still do...) and I know I'm now a better driver for it.

[Patrick]

you cant and it won't be fixed. Ever.

Untill its "gay" to be a boy ricer.

All righty then...

IT IS GAY TO BE A BOY RACER.....

Lets start something here......

[The Pastor]

All righty then...

IT IS GAY TO BE A BOY RACER.....

Lets start something here......

Untill the boy racers think that it is gay to be a dick on the road.......

[avgas]

What the fuck is Meremere drag strip then?
I didn't feel the need to drive a car until I was 32 - and even then it was a 1 litre VW.
I got all my horsepower from my body - Cycling and Triathlon - I was never a petrol head - guess my dick must be too big and I didn't need the compensation.
Cars are a part of Kiwi Culture? Cars hadn't even been invented when Cook landed!
How many brands of car are currently manufactured in NZ?

Nor were bikes then? never mind the fact that some of us kiwis have been riding since bikes became public. But both you and I wern't around when bikes were invented nor cars. So your being a bit single minded about it don't you think.
Never was a petrol head - ride a commuter these days then?????
Cars are a part of Kiwi Culture - just like mobile phones and bikes. Denying that fact of life is like saying that jetboats are an american icon.
Many brands of car stuff is made here, not to mention the 1000's of kiwis that design car stuff overseas. STILLEN, McLaren.........do i need to go on.
Stop comparing your life and imposing it on others. Leave that to the politicians who think riding bikes is dangerous.