Smash you?

[Deano]

Martial arts wont help you in these situations because, most likely, your mind will go blank and it will be a brawl.

The point of the training is so it becomes second nature and will be a reflex action when needed. If you can think clearly at the time a good martial artist should beat most brawlers.

[Blakamin]

The point of the training is so it becomes second nature and will be a reflex action when needed. If you can think clearly at the time a good martial artist should beat most brawlers.

Thats all good and well but after 6 years of TKD and 4 of kendo and various other styles in between, it didnt help me when push came to shove... you dont get room for your 'moves' is one thing!

[Deano]

Thats all good and well but after 6 years of TKD and 4 of kendo and various other styles in between, it didnt help me when push came to shove... you dont get room for your 'moves' is one thing!

Elbows are superb for in close fighting, but you may not have trained those in TKD, Kendo etc.

Were you drunk at the time ? I know its near impossible to fight well when your'e in a state. Despite how well you think you can go with the tesosterone+alcohol mix.

[texmo]

What type of pressure point karate is there?
I just wanna know how to take someone out as quickly as possible so that sounds like a good option.
I am just looking for something to keep my body in shape I go to the gym on mon,wed,fri and jog evey morning for 20mis, Boxing helped with my speed and learning how to 'range' my punches, im just after something with a little more style to it, something with a little more complexity as boxing is boring for me now....

[jrandom]

im just after something with a little more style to it, something with a little more complexity

What it really sounds like is that you're after a chance to beat someone up.

Why not just join a Muay Thai gym, if your masochistic streak runs that deep? Do you really think that subtle differences in how you crook your little finger as you pirouette on the back foot during Tuesday evening move-to-the-music sessions are going to mean much if and when you're stupid enough to end up unable to escape from someone intent on attacking you?

Just train yourself to be as fast and strong as possible, and harden up by doing some proper ring fighting instead of poncing about in belts of rainbow colours taking bows for the audience. Be prepared to get knocked out. I hope you aren't planning on a career that'll need *too* many brain cells in twenty years time (you might like to try academia as a safe bet, just in case of injury...)

Not that I'd know, of course. Shrug.

[scumdog]

From my experience all the fancy moves/blows/holds ain't worth jack-shit in more than half the situations you are likely to be in, they all end up in a roll around grappling match with somebody who is an unknown quantity and not very co-operative and possibly slippery from rain mud or sweat.

Learn what you want but don't bank on it to 100% get you out of a "situation" - my 2-cents worth.

[texmo]

What it really sounds like is that you're after a chance to beat someone up.

Why not just join a Muay Thai gym, if your masochistic streak runs that deep? Do you really think that subtle differences in how you crook your little finger as you pirouette on the back foot during Tuesday evening move-to-the-music sessions are going to mean much if and when you're stupid enough to end up unable to escape from someone intent on attacking you?

Just train yourself to be as fast and strong as possible, and harden up by doing some proper ring fighting instead of poncing about in belts of rainbow colours taking bows for the audience. Be prepared to get knocked out. I hope you aren't planning on a career that'll need *too* many brain cells in twenty years time (you might like to try academia as a safe bet, just in case of injury...)


Not that I'd know, of course. Shrug.

I have been doing boxing for the last 1 and a half year and have had around 50 ring fights/spars so im not just after a chance to beat some one up....

[Jackrat]

I have been doing boxing for the last 1 and a half year and have had around 50 ring fights/spars so im not just after a chance to beat some one up....

I didn't have fifty fights in five years of amature boxing.
Fuck you must be good

[jazbug5]

Ring fights/spars?

Perhaps what he means is he's done a lot of sparring sessions rather than all ring bouts..?
BTW; no matter how good you are, never, ever look for fights, and never, ever make the mistake of being too cocky. There are no rules in streetfighting. It's messy and unpredictable and best avoided; as someone said before, psychology- talking- is best. Stand in a nonconfrontational way, talk, don't wave your hands about, and try to defuse the situation. Much more intelligent, and less likely to end up in hospital/court.

[texmo]

Ring fights/spars?

Perhaps what he means is he's done a lot of sparring sessions rather than all ring bouts..?
BTW; no matter how good you are, never, ever look for fights, and never, ever make the mistake of being too cocky. There are no rules in streetfighting. It's messy and unpredictable and best avoided; as someone said before, psychology- talking- is best. Stand in a nonconfrontational way, talk, don't wave your hands about, and try to defuse the situation. Much more intelligent, and less likely to end up in hospital/court.

Yer I have done a tonne of sparing.
I am not doing this to go look for fights im jsut looking for something to defend myself with for more confidence........

[Blakamin]

Yer I have done a tonne of sparing.
I am not doing this to go look for fights im jsut looking for something to defend myself with for more confidence........

stay home
or buy a pit-bull

[Hitcher]

Personally I am an exponent/advocate of Rah Nah Wai, a simpler form of the styles Rah Nahn Hyd and Rahn Bambirahn. I am one of those old fashioned people who likes to be out when trouble comes knocking...

[Blakamin]

Personally I am an exponent/advocate of Rah Nah Wai, a simpler form of the styles Rah Nahn Hyd and Rahn Bambirahn. I am one of those old fashioned people who likes to be out when trouble comes knocking...

brilliant!

[Dr Bob]

Hi all

A fair variety of dialogue has already been added, and I don't want to bore you with repetition so I'll keep it brief.

TKD offers a good combiniation of Fitness, Flexibility, and Conditioning. The Instructor DOES matter, my first instructor had us do self defence from Aikado, and fitness training from Capoeira- this multi-disciplinary approach was very useful. Don't get too hung up on the merits of a particular style, although I was doing WTF TKD, I have also competed in open Karate tournements and done a year of ITF and another of GKR Karate, and I think that the 'politics' can sometimes get in the way. I started martial arts just before I turned 30, I hope to get back into it full strength soon and get my blackbelt before I turn 40. TKD normally doesn't do a whole bunch of weapons, mainly knife defence and short and long bo (a piece of wood). On the other hand if you think you want to do Gung Fu or Karate to use weapons then you will have a bit of a wait before you get to do them. Most beginners in nearly all martial arts spend an inordinate amount of time doing very trivial things - it takes a true martial arts candidate to realise that the basics are important.

As far as getting into fights - I have never been in one (although in full contact (WTF) and controlled contact (Karate) competition sparring I have both dished up and taken an awful lot of action). I do not hesitate to suggest that I probably would have been in more fights on the street, to my own detriment, if I had not being doing martial arts.

[Devil]

Wing Chun is great for very close quarters fighting, very in your face style. As someone mentioned earlier its a no bullshit art. Straight to the point and very effective.