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    Quote Originally Posted by skelstar View Post
    Yeah I used Dreamweaver for about 5mins. Those packages, at least when i was using them, produced some terrible code. .
    Pretty good now. I use Dreamweaver and tidy up manually.
    I also do a lot of stuff in Flash too.
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    Yeah played with flash a fair bit a while ago. Struggled to get it to hook up to a MySQL database as it just wasn't that simple. I'm sure theres better tutorials on the net for it now.

    Also, I kinda don't 'own' Flash so have been reluctant to use it in anger on the net.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skelstar View Post
    Also, I kinda don't 'own' Flash so have been reluctant to use it in anger on the net.
    I only kinda mentioned it to goad the geeks.

    I bit the bullet and lashed out $2K for Creative Suite.
    It's all online activation now - hard to 'evaluate' software any more.

    And then other times I just use jpegs and html.
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    Its funny how angry people get about Flash eh? Have had many a heated debate with workmates.

    Don't even getme started about the fixed width webpages debate
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    Quote Originally Posted by skelstar View Post
    Its funny how angry people get about Flash eh? Have had many a heated debate with workmates.

    Don't even getme started about the fixed width webpages debate
    You tube killed the flash and even the whole plug in 'debate' for mine.
    I deploy with impunity.

    I use 800px as a starting point and push the envelope from thar.

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    oi you lot, i aint got a clue wot yer on about!!! can you do all this in babytalk so i can undastand it pweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze

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    Quote Originally Posted by canarlee View Post
    oi you lot, i aint got a clue wot yer on about!!! can you do all this in babytalk so i can undastand it pweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze
    OK.

    If it's hobby:
    You can make a rudimentary web site yourself. We all started that way. I used the free Mozilla thing in 1996 and learnt html basics from there. This is the cheapest way. Not necessarily the best.

    or

    You go to a pro - and they look at what you are tyrying to achieve and give you commercial support in selling your product - far beyond where it is hosted etc. A commercial plan.

    or

    You get a freelancer to design you something and you look after its maintainence of their design.


    Start with a budget and I can point you in the right direction. off line if you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skelstar View Post
    Its funny how angry people get about Flash eh?
    My boss too - she is a SEO guru, and we all know that SE's use HTML to track a site... she gets very cranky about Flash!

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    Im relucant to put flash on a web site... but if I am ask to I will I don't use Flash I use SWiSH Max...

    As for coding your own... Dreamweaver is easy but $$$ NVU is similar but free... but all apps will put waste of code in. it just makes it easier as a designer not as a coder to quickly put a site together... I can the switch to text mode and tidy up the code a bit.


    ah its all good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    As for coding your own... Dreamweaver is easy but $$$ NVU is similar but free... but all apps will put waste of code in. it just makes it easier as a designer not as a coder to quickly put a site together... I can the switch to text mode and tidy up the code a bit.
    True that. When I was playing with Dreamweaver it had a habit of making a lot of tables, whereas I do everything by DIV tags...and CSS blah blah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skelstar View Post
    True that. When I was playing with Dreamweaver it had a habit of making a lot of tables, whereas I do everything by DIV tags...and CSS blah blah.
    And it also used to put five or six font tags in a row and stuff like that.
    Now it's all CSS based and XHTML compliant.
    Pages validate without a tweak mostly.
    One click at the top of the window and it's published too - I like that. The site management tools are now also pretty good.

    It's also why the arse has fallen out of building web sites for small business. Stuff I got $5k for 5 years ago buys a plug and play option including the box now. But I can make 4 in the same space of time so it's still viable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    I bit the bullet and lashed out $2K for Creative Suite.
    It's all online activation now - hard to 'evaluate' software any more.
    Evaluate away

    http://www.isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq...ve+suite+crack

    /edit: You just gotta know where to look... I'm doing 2 pages at the moment... $16k

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Evaluate away

    http://www.isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq...ve+suite+crack

    /edit: You just gotta know where to look... I'm doing 2 pages at the moment... $16k
    Nah - I rather play by the rules - less stress.

    I did say small business. Giving them good advice is part of the gig.

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    Yep, using pirated stuff for commercial stuff is just asking for an MV Augusta sized fine to be extracted from your wallet

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    you can always use something like HTMLTidy to clean up the code WYSIWYG creates.

    Nothing beats hand coding thou
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