Power cut off, woman dies

[MisterD]

...and this will be a DOUBLE SIZE casket and a DOUBLE plot...

Get in the JCB, dig deep and bury her sideways.

[MisterD]

I doubt that will happen as long as (Teflon) Clark is prime minister of New Zealand!

Unkind comment? (not IMHO) Check out her record for dodging responsibility when it suits her!

More to the point currently, is her record of putting the boot in when someone's down. I'm so looking forward to the day when all that karma comes home to roost. Fuckin' old crone that she is.

[Delerium]

disregard, shouldnt really comment on that.

[Wannabiker]

Yeah, I wouldn't like to be the coroner on this one. (not that I am a coroner...but I do watch CSI and cold case)...I bet he is (was) under a little pressure!!

A DR wrote in the Dom today that the machine she was on was meant to be used for up to 16 hrs a day...certainly not 24/7. People who are on LIFE SUPPORT are kept in hospital.

And on morning TV today the PM saying that disconnecting the power ...'.is not something any decent person would do....'[in that situation] Ffs that poor contractor has just been condemed pubicly by the PM. I'm surprized she needs a cabinet as she knows so f***n much about everything.
OK..thats my 2 bobs worth

[Karma]

Mate, I'd fucken love it if I was the contractor.

Wait till the truth comes out that it wasn't his fault, and he sues the ass offa anyone he can, and then takes a few years off work on ACC due to 'stress'. Game on!

[peasea]

I estimate I have spent $10,000 at Tans Fish & Chips over 20 years in Ngaio.

I'd hate to guess your cholestorol level then. No matter, just don't pay your power bill and you'll get a free casket when you snuff it from the self-inflicted medical problems you have from a poor diet.

Oops, did I say that out loud? Saying things like that isn't what "any decent person would do".

Trial by media, operation mushroom, break out the counsellors and compensate the crap out of anyone who has no personal responsibility.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Does anyone really expect that postmortem result to be accurately reported to the public?

I doubt that will happen as long as (Teflon) Clark is prime minister of New Zealand!

Unkind comment? (not IMHO) Check out her record for dodging responsibility when it suits her!

Speaks for it's self! John.

agreed... I don't know how many bullets she has dodged... more than superman anyway

[Grahameeboy]

Mate, I'd fucken love it if I was the contractor.

Wait till the truth comes out that it wasn't his fault, and he sues the ass offa anyone he can, and then takes a few years off work on ACC due to 'stress'. Game on!

Unless he is named not sure he can sue and don't get me on the ACC thingymegig.....

Have been thinking and just to explain.

I do not believe that the contractor or Mercury is/are responsible for the lady's death. I just feel that perhaps things could have been handled better. Agreed they get sob stories, however, some are genuine and if the Contractor had any inkling that there was medical equipment in house he should have called for advise.

I believe that the family had plenty of opportunity to;

- Ring for an ambulance
- Ask a neighbour to use their power
- Pay the bill......there must have been somone who could have coughed up.

Novus Actus Intervenien (not sure about spelling) but it exonerates the original wrongdoer from negligence because the family, once aware of problem did not take action to avoid problem

I suspect that the stress probably aggravated the lady's condition which explains the rapid deterioration.

The proximate cause was not the cutting off of power as there was a broken chain of events.........namely the Family, for reasons best known to them, failing to take the action above.

I believe that Mercury's decision to pay $10,000, whilst a nice gesture, has not helped their cause as for some it could be seen as an admission of fault.

The media should be reported for creating an unnecessary backlash and knee jerking............interesting that they did not offer to help the family which I guess gives some credit to Mercury, whether you agree with their gestere, or not.

No point blaming anyone, just a lesson to be learned.

[Grahameeboy]

agreed... I don't know how many bullets she has dodged... more than superman anyway

He does not need to dodge bullets silly

[shcabbeh]

"The Muliaga family say they want the police investigation into the death of Folole to be stopped immediately."

Taken from: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10443867

Of course they do. What pisses me off about this latest development is that they say:

"Family spokesman Brenden Sheehan told the Herald yesterday the family did not want the contractor to be investigated or charged.

He said the family had only love for the contractor and had forgiven him for disconnecting the power."

They're making it seem as if they're absolutely and completely in the right! Forgiveness seems to come easy when there's money involved. I personally believe they don't want the investigation to continue for fear of being charged themselves.

I thought it was ridiculous before, but surely someone else can see the madness here?

[Grahameeboy]

"The Muliaga family say they want the police investigation into the death of Folole to be stopped immediately."

Taken from: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10443867

Of course they do. What pisses me off about this latest development is that they say:

"Family spokesman Brenden Sheehan told the Herald yesterday the family did not want the contractor to be investigated or charged.

He said the family had only love for the contractor and had forgiven him for disconnecting the power."

They're making it seem as if they're absolutely and completely in the right! Forgiveness seems to come easy when there's money involved. I personally believe they don't want the investigation to continue for fear of being charged themselves.

I thought it was ridiculous before, but surely someone else can see the madness here?

Yep madness indeed..................

[Hitcher]

One wonders if they want the coroner's investigation to cease as well.

This sorry saga will provide valuable case study resources for years to come. Particularly what happens when multiple self-interests collide:

The immigrant family
The social welfare system
The health system
Commercial imperitives
The Prime Minister of New Zealand
The trade union activist
The government appointed chairperson
The media...

Unfortunately it is unlikely that there will be any significant learnings to arise from this train wreck, particularly from the last party on my list, which really should know better.

[insane1]

will we ever hear the end of this one i doubt that .would be nice to find out all the facts not rumors as the case may be why pay $10,000 when your not at fault.

[Patrick]

I personally believe they don't want the investigation to continue for fear of being charged themselves.

Sums it up... would laugh my tits off if (when???) it happens, but then there would be another thread saying poor family being picked on by the cops...

[davereid]

I think the G'mint nust act now..

It should be illegal to disconnect anyones power just because they don't pay for it.

It should be illegal to disconnect anyones water just because they don't pay for it.

It should be illegal to disconnect anyones phone just be cause they don't pay for it.

It should be illegal to evict someone just because they don't pay the rent.

It should be illegal to stop anyone leaving the supermarket with a trolley full of food just because they didn't pay for it.

It should be illegal to make people pay for petrol.
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Sadly, the reality here is that it is the job of social agencies to look after people who can't manage on their own. Its not the job of the power company, supermarket or butcher. The power company were entirely correct in disconnecting the power when the account was unpaid, the failure here was with the social agencies, and the family who may have been too proud to call them.
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