Two weird things learnt today; re a basher and an anti-smacker

**candor** · 2nd June 2007, 18:48

For once in my life I was speechless. Today someone informed me that Sue Bradford is a brilliant woman - our brightest polly in fact.

Naturally I demanded proof and here is what I was told. Her brusque working class public persona is simply a facade to attract "ordinary" folk or it was said that the dumber types of sheep as followers by making them relate to her. Both parents are academics.

She is fluent in a couple of Asian languages, and while Helen was voted one of the most powerful women in the world she won't make a move without doing a Sue-meter. If there is even a grain of truth in this I'm frightened and think we might be blaming the wrong chick - for everything.

Second "hmmmm" moment today came when another interesting fact came to light. A sicko staff person and ducati dude who did things I consider criminal (some said psychopathic) at the hospital we both worked at, (including endangering me and muuuuch worse), has years later just been stripped of his registration and thrown into jail for his fifth DUI and stealing morphine from the latest hospital he infiltrated! Finally someone dobbed him in. Hmmmm, what goes round.

So - is Sue a masterful manipulator or a determined slogger. What say y'all on Sues brain?

**Mully** · 2nd June 2007, 18:59

She's a retard. Pure and simple. Dumb as a box of hammers.

And you need to hang out with better people.

**Steam** · 2nd June 2007, 19:02

She's always been a smart cookie, people not liking her politics just blinds them to her brains. She's also disguised as a short, round unattractive woman, which further leads you astray.

**Skyryder** · 2nd June 2007, 19:09

I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Bradford and I recall saying this in other posts so won't go into my reasons for it. I will however give her credit for holding out on the so called anti smacking bill and not allowing it to be watered down. To me that suggests someone with some principles regardless of the the pros and cons of her bill.

I'm not too sure whether she would have made it into Parliment under FPP but then she would not be the only one.

If you look at the woman who are now held in the highest regard in social issues they were the most reviled of their day. Kate Shepard, Sonja Davies are two that spring to mind. They challanged the social mores and issues of the day. Ideals and values that most of society now accepts.

I predict that in the future Bradford will be up there with them.

Skyryder

**Colapop** · 2nd June 2007, 19:15

Her son rowed (Star club - Wgtn) with mine over the summer just gone. I didn't like her before and I don't like her even more now. She is a politician in the worst sense of the word. Obnoxious and demeaning if you don't suit her purpose or disagree with her... mind you I was a tad aggressive

**Dave Lobster** · 2nd June 2007, 19:20

Wasn't she a rebel at college, raising students to complain, and being a general pain in the ass? Subsequently disowned by her family she went from bad to worse to what she is now.

If Queen Hell en really does run everything past slapper bradford, that ought to be made common knowledge in the press by the next election.

**Mully** · 2nd June 2007, 19:24

Originally Posted by Skyryder

I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Bradford and I recall saying this in other posts so won't go into my reasons for it. I will however give her credit for holding out on the so called anti smacking bill and not allowing it to be watered down. To me that suggests someone with some principles regardless of the the pros and cons of her bill.

I'm not too sure whether she would have made it into Parliment under FPP but then she would not be the only one.

If you look at the woman who are now held in the highest regard in social issues they were the most reviled of their day. Kate Shepard, Sonja Davies are two that spring to mind. They challanged the social mores and issues of the day. Ideals and values that most of society now accepts.

I predict that in the future Bradford will be up there with them.

Skyryder

Hmm, interesting points, certainly something to think about. However, I think single mindedly holding out on her Bill was stubborn when something like 75% of the public didn't want it.

I think by definition, that character trait (unable or unwilling to negotiate) would make her a terrible leader in the true sense of the word.

Her lack of charisma (if it's that, rather than her apparant retardation) will hold her back from ever holding a serious position of responsibility. For example, she would never be able to hold a senior management position in the real world.

**candor** · 2nd June 2007, 19:29

Its good to get a personal experience view Cola. I had really thought she was an idiot (due to logic of the nanny state bill), but the person who told me otherwise does NOT agree with her politics and is a pretty onto it aircraft engineer - whose opinion I respect on most things. If Bradford is conniving who knows what else she has been pulling behind the scenes. I would doubt she is a one horse trick in that case.

Skyrider that was thought provoking only I think Shepherd and all had far more inspired ideas. As our kid abuse rates rise will Sue apologise for putting in useless legislation when other focuses and political moves could have been far more helpful.

**Grahameeboy** · 2nd June 2007, 19:38

Originally Posted by Skyryder

I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Bradford and I recall saying this in other posts so won't go into my reasons for it. I will however give her credit for holding out on the so called anti smacking bill and not allowing it to be watered down. To me that suggests someone with some principles regardless of the the pros and cons of her bill.

I'm not too sure whether she would have made it into Parliment under FPP but then she would not be the only one.

If you look at the woman who are now held in the highest regard in social issues they were the most reviled of their day. Kate Shepard, Sonja Davies are two that spring to mind. They challanged the social mores and issues of the day. Ideals and values that most of society now accepts.

I predict that in the future Bradford will be up there with them.

Skyryder

I agree, was a Thatcher fan simply because for a Politician she more or less stuck to what she believed in.

**Grahameeboy** · 2nd June 2007, 19:39

Retard......mmm.................never like that word...........

**Grahameeboy** · 2nd June 2007, 19:44

Originally Posted by candor

Its good to get a personal experience view Cola. I had really thought she was an idiot (due to logic of the nanny state bill), but the person who told me otherwise does NOT agree with her politics and is a pretty onto it aircraft engineer - whose opinion I respect on most things. If Bradford is conniving who knows what else she has been pulling behind the scenes. I would doubt she is a one horse trick in that case.

Skyrider that was thought provoking only I think Shepherd and all had far more inspired ideas. As our kid abuse rates rise will Sue apologise for putting in useless legislation when other focuses and political moves could have been far more helpful.

Those with crystal balls...........how do you know it will be useless......life is about giving things a go and if Ghandi had sat on his shat pot where would India be now.......Sue Bradford did something and the cause is a valid one so she should be thanked for that....time will be the test...............