Yup, the Aussies had all the fun.Originally Posted by sAsLEX
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Yup, the Aussies had all the fun.
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Trees, Coal, Gold, Asians....
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Can't they grow trees in Indonesia? :P
Coal, sure. But what Gold is left?
For whom the bell tolls
land and fresh water
KiwiBitcher
where opinion holds more weight than fact.
It's better to not pass and know that you could have than to pass and find out that you can't. Wait for the straight.
Moped rider
Yip, and Iv been in for 7 years and im on 34 grand. although I changed trade so iv only got 4 years senority and im in a different service.
Cyborg Biker
When I left in 91' I was on 28g
Moped rider
NZ is also the gateway to antarctica. Lots of oild down there isnt there? lots of food in the southern ocean too.
Cyborg Biker
Not forgeting the NZ itself has possibly got oil... especially southland, stewart island and southern basin...
Weapons of Mass Acceleration
Absolutely positively brilliant.
For whom the bell tolls
Why is that people that know SFA (sweet fuck all) about the military, what it ACTUALLY does, and how it is run, seem to be the ones who think they know everything and contribute endless posts of crap into threads like this?
Why do they think that a 'military' vessel/aircraft/vehicle has to be geared for aggression and fighting? Is it not apparent that other than the SAS, and a few army grunts that our country hasn't actively gone to war to fight in nearly 30 years?
The military as it currently stands is geared to protect our EEZ, (which is one of the (if not the) largest in the world comparitive to the land mass of our country.) and for peacekeeping duties.
Our country (with respect to other countries) has been at 'peace' for some time now. We don't need a strike capability in the airforce, we hadn't used the one we had in a wartime situation in the 30 years we had them does this say something to you?
The MRV is a MULTI ROLE VESSEL - it is designed for a multitude of roles (hence the name, duh)... mainly which is to deploy, support and retrieve peace keeping troops on deployment. It has the capability to operate four helicopters, which if were seasprites technically increases its armament to 8 AGM Maverick missiles - but that is not what the ship is setup for. It is setup to help patrol NZ's EZZ and be available to assist in situations of natural disasters (i.e. the job our DEFENCE force does).
There are Offshore and coastal vessels on the way aswell to do the job of patrolling the EEZ and general security tasks so that the ANZAC's can go out and do the 'im a big bad ship' job that all you tweeds so blatantly believe they are used for.
The RNZAF is recieveing 8 new 'state of the art' medium to heavy lift NH90 Helicopters which will expand the rotary lift section's (that means helicopter transport people) ability to do their current role, and they have the possibility of being fitted with a forward facing gun/rockets/missles if it is so desired. (no im not talking out my ass)... add to this the development of the 737MRA (maritime recon aircraft) which will be due to replace the P-3 Orion. Our P-3K have actually recieved loads of upgrades, and are currently undergoing airframe and avionics upgrades at the moment to extend their lifetime by up to 20years), there is also the option of a airforce/customs share in Dash-8 light maritime patrol aircraft for fisheries work.
Also the C-130's are currently undergoing a similar program where a majority of the airframe and all of the avionics are being upgraded. There is also a couple of options to replace the C-130 coming to fruition at the moment. Namely an Airbus turboprop (the name escapes me) which looks like the most likely option - the C-17 is a bit too big for our needs, and really expensive too.
The army... the army. Well they got far too many LAVIII's to start with, so they probably wont get anything for a good while yet...
But my point is, nearly all of you dont know WTF you are talking about (with the exception of Lias and SaSlex and one or two others)
KiwiBitcher
where opinion holds more weight than fact.
It's better to not pass and know that you could have than to pass and find out that you can't. Wait for the straight.
For whom the bell tolls
Kind like honda and the 'fireblade'...and ducati with the 'supersport' or is that known as tradition too?
KiwiBitcher
where opinion holds more weight than fact.
It's better to not pass and know that you could have than to pass and find out that you can't. Wait for the straight.
Hardcore Biker
Think about it, if Israel was to be defeated and the USA continued to lose face and ground and only be able to defend herself, just "who" would be interested, let alone "able" to defend us and Australia!
Helen Clark states that we live in a benign area of the world, how does she think it is going to stay that way with her "stated" policies, or by the policies that she knows we "must" adopt to survive!
The average age of the Indonesian "hordes" (who love us to bits) just above us is 24yrs, what is the average age of New Zealand and Australia and how many of our new people are loyal enough to want to defend us.
Does our armed force have the capability and equipment to even stall a determined invader, let alone defend us?
Wake up and smell the roses, like it or not, we need "Georgie boy" more than he needs us, despite what the socialists tell you!John.
I dont think Aunty Helen need be worried about outside invaders too much...If she keeps on going the way she is, we gonna have one hell of a revolution right here in our own backyard.
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The army is getting snazzy new dpm clothes. (I went to the presentation and all!)
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yes Sir!
i still think that we need to be able to defend ourselves.
and whats all this peacekeeping shit?
we cant even keep the peace in south auckland yet!
and then we bring refugees from opther 3rd world countries and dont educate them, resulting in more crap happening in our country.
ohh and muslems thats what indonesia is full of, and crazy ones at that.
even the chinese indonesians dont like the native ones and their the ones that we usually see around here, jsut wait till the really scummy ones start to some down.
Cyborg Biker
mainly tradition, to honour the past vessels to rebear the name, and to honour the crew that served on these ships...
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