RIDER TRAINING 'track day'

**FROSTY:Me** · 13th June 2007, 13:52

Im doing a lil bit of brainstorming here folks.
I've been tossing around the idea of taking this track day thing one stage further and running propper rider training days.
But what is it you guys n gals most wanna learn??

Im thinking High speed braking for sure. Maybee some of you wanna learn how to get ya knee down --fire away with what ya most wanna learn--ohh and how much honestly you would pay for the chance

**TerminalAddict** · 13th June 2007, 14:34

wheelies, knee down

$100ish for a weekend, weekdays are a no go

**Cajun** · 13th June 2007, 14:47

A good training day aposed to a track day would be great idea, i personally use track days to try different things.

Me and motogirl did one many years ago (thru uylsses club) with brian bernard and freddie merkle(wbsk winner). and to this day that is best track/training day we have ever been to
it was very informated due to fact we acutally walked around the track, and at each corner they would show us what is a good line and what is a bad line, and how to go around corner. (another point to note on these track days the first session of the track day, we were made to go around track and not touch our brakes for first 20 min session, next session only front, it was more teaching about using gears to slow you down and get on power out of it) Motogirl to this day still does this firse session of a track day she will not use the brakes going around whole track

And in the rest of sessions for the day, 3 races would go around track and would follow you for a couple of laps then let follow them, and if had any pointers make you pull over and tell you what to do or try again.

We also had semi drag matches with brakeing(aka standing start accelrate 200meters then in turn jump on brakes, first was rear only, second was front only next was both together)

And cost would be looking at same costs as a normal track day $100, but it should be marketed as a training day not a track day, on that bases.

**FROSTY:Me** · 13th June 2007, 14:52

speedie--Im on a fishing expedition right now -as in--is there the interest and what would people pay.
My thoughts right now are along the lines of multiple instructors (10 or more) using the 2 tracks at taupo ---Ie seperating the track into 2 sections. running 4 groups -2 on the track 2 in the classroom doin theory
--Im thinkin a basic suspension setup class.track positioning etc .
BUT most important --would people be prepared to PAY for that kinda training??
Cajun --I did one of those too--BUT it was more like $200 per person -byut on the old Taupo track--ie the track only cost $1250.00 to hire back then -thats the general Idea Ive gotthough--like the merkel thing

**Blackbird** · 13th June 2007, 15:00

Hi Frosty

What are we really talking about, an intro to riding on the track or improved roadcraft? I assume it's the former as it's on a track. The reason I ask is that some track skills and lines are not necessarily directly transferrable to the road (like how you approach blind corners, the 12 second rule and so on), but stuff like high speed braking certainly is. I did an advanced roadcraft course a few years back when I first bought the Blackbird with the ex-chief instructor of the M.O.T and it probably saved my life! I've never done a track day as I'm not interested in a pure thrash but if there are aspects which I can transfer to everyday road riding through good instruction; that would be a different matter.

Cheers,

Geoff

**jimbo600** · 13th June 2007, 15:03

Um calculus would be nice.

**montsta56** · 13th June 2007, 15:15

Id be real keen dont give a fuck what it cost. Braking, cornering lines etc etc. I feel sunday's are best as alot of people still work on saties. Cheers

**Trudes** · 13th June 2007, 15:21

Hi Frosty, I for one would definitely be interested in a tuition day that would teach good skills for road riding, but in a relatively safe environment like the track where there are no cars, trucks etc to contend with.
On the trackdays I've been to I use the time I have on the track to practice the stuff I use on the road, as I'm not aspiring to be a race rider, such as cornering speeds and lines, braking into corners and acceleration out of corners etc. I tend to ride the track like it's a road, as that's what I ride most often, and probably tend to ride slower on the track than I do on the road (as anyone who's ridden behind me on the track can attest to

) as I'm using that time as practice and a learning thing.
High speed braking would be a great lesson also, don't like to practice that kind of stuff on the roads just in case a car or another bike comes piling up my bum, but on the track in a controlled environment is a great place to practice and get the feel of the bike under heavy breaking.
If it'll make me a better road rider and possibly save my life one day, I think it's worth paying for. Cheers!

**Cajun** · 13th June 2007, 15:23

Originally Posted by FROSTY

Cajun --I did one of those too--BUT it was more like $200 per person -byut on the old Taupo track--ie the track only cost $1250.00 to hire back then -thats the general Idea Ive gotthough--like the merkel thing

Not to sure how much it was but it only cost us $30(this is also going back about 6 years now), but it was subised by uylsses tho.

**Lissa** · 13th June 2007, 15:27

Ditto what Mrs KD said. I would like to learn my lines for cornering, and braking mostly... on the track would be great without traffic etc. Weekends would be the best time. And would pay for it.

**tri boy** · 13th June 2007, 15:39

Sounds like a good idea.

If 6-10 instructors were available, may I suggest focusing one of them towards the learner license group. The closed circuit location could help with confidence,(no traffic to be distracted by).
Costing? $100-150. Maybe a Bike Insurance company may wish to sponsor the learners costs? (Great PR, espesically with ACC promoting Bike Saftey).
I'll be in, never too old to learn.

**Hitcher** · 13th June 2007, 15:44

High-speed braking
Wet road braking
Cornering lines
Pillioning

A good idea Frosty.

**cowboyz** · 13th June 2007, 15:49

would be interested in a how to wheelie properly course.

Also interested in lines/tyres/suspension/positioning on the bike. Things like that.

**kiwifruit** · 13th June 2007, 15:56

Good idea Frosty, be plenty of punters keen i'd say....

Prehaps different days for different rider skill levels?
Race craft skills for people starting out racing or wanting to get faster on the track
Advanced bike control for road riders
Basic bike control for newbies

**Trudes** · 13th June 2007, 15:59

Originally Posted by kiwifruit

Good idea Frosty, be plenty of punters keen i'd say....

Prehaps different days for different rider skill levels?
Race craft skills for people starting out racing or wanting to get faster on the track
Advanced bike control for road riders
Basic bike control for newbies

Now that's a flash idea!!