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    All of these guys have realy good points about the relaxing part, I think if Glenn does OK on your bike, what may be the problem is that you like drive out of the corners (exit speed) making you feel as though your bikes slow when everyone passes you down the straights. If you focus on riding the wheels off what you have, then if you find a problem and fix it, you'll go faster because of your new learnt riding ability
    my opinion anyway...
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    Round Three

    So I roll up to round three at Manfield with a, 'don't worry about where you place, as long as you beat 'AJ Turbo' ' kind of attitude.
    I had reverted the KR jetting back to standard as tests in NP had indicated that it would pull sixth gear better that way.

    The track was cold and damp when we went out for Practice/Qualifying, and a small front wheel slide through 'Splash?' had me taking an extra lap of warming up tyres before trying to put down a Q/time. The recent thread about 'slicks in the wet' had me having a little more faith in my worn TT900's that were getting closer and closer to that 'slicks' look with each race day.

    I was feeling comfortable on the damp track and put in a decent feeling lap on my fourth round just as the white last lap flag came out. So, one more lap it was to 'do the business'! That last lap was turning out to be a good'n, but on exiting the last sweeper, I see the red fag out, and Glen's bike laying in the middle of the track before the finish line. We were ushered into pit lane without crossing the finish line, so timing on that lap was gone. (Thanks Glen!) -Kidding.

    As I only really got one good lap timed, I was surprised to read I qualified 5th out of the 14 in the class. and only 0.01 of a second off Graeme in 4th. The bike felt like it was pulling 'ok' with maybe a slight burbble right before red line.

    Race 1 and the racing line was drying nicely. I got a great start, seemingly passing Kyle on his 250 in pole before he even got his machine moving. 4th into the first corner, which I held till the first straight (if memory serves), before being passed by the faster bikes. While holding that 4th spot, I remember the feeling of... If I just pass this one guy that is right in front of me... I could be in for my first podium finish!
    But alas it was not to be. I had a great battle with Kris (79) for the last half of the race, but whats on the board Miss Ford... a 7th place was the best I could muster.

    I keenly picked up the race timing to see the improvement the standard jetting had achieved over last months 1:38's bomb out, only to be disappointed with 1:39's today. Though I did get down to 1:38's for the next race, there was certainly no improvement there.

    The last race was the worst for me as throughout the day that top end burbble was getting progressively more noticeable. So I tried removing the air intake sleeve on the air box lid to allow more air at top revs. This had a worsening affect on my problem, which added to my horrible start, ended me down in 11th at the flag.

    So yes, more fun was had this day,
    but the motor issues still persist. Will see what else I can try next month.

    See you out there.

    Racey

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    If your breaking around the sweaper, your going too slow round there. Thats what ive been told by a couple streetstock riders. Lean off the bike a bit, get your weight on the inside of the corner. It will help you carry more corner speed in and around the corner. Look at the 125 guys. They are pratically down on the tank the whole way around the track.
    Try it. You never know.
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    good stuff racey, you got a good attitude to racing. Have fun and push a little bit harder each lap and you hopefully see the lap times drop

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    Happy to help you where ever I can Alex.If you can be there on the friday before the next round Im only too happy to let you take my RG for a blast and maybe have a ride on your KR and let you know what I think.Also if you think I can help you with some coaching just ask.Will be doing so with Avalon and Jas hopefully so another 1 wont hurt.Cheers Billy

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    Thanks team.

    I hope to get to the next pre race test day, so some help there would be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky Bills View Post
    If your breaking around the sweaper, your going too slow round there. Thats what ive been told by a couple streetstock riders. Lean off the bike a bit, get your weight on the inside of the corner. It will help you carry more corner speed in and around the corner. Look at the 125 guys. They are pratically down on the tank the whole way around the track.
    Try it. You never know.
    Yeah just try shifting your weight lowering your center of gravity thus making you corner more stable and faster,


    Its all about self confidence as well,

    you kind of just need to relax and do a test day go out there for fun dont concentrate on your lap times and youl find youl actually somehow find something that makes you tick and youl be away.
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    Alex, all good advice coming thru there. Matbe I'll add a few ideas. There are 3 models of KR 150 in NZ. Yours is a '99, tho I can't figure out the wheels. Are they standard? If not, maybe your geometry is is all up the poo.
    The 99 is slow and handles pretty bad, only one notch above an RGV 150.
    The 2001 model "super cyclone, race replica" has slightly better handling, but a really fast motor, faster than any other 150, incuding RG's. The 2003 model, like Sketchy had, has a slow motor, bout the same as the '99, but very good handling, wider rear rim and better ground clearance. It's the only match for an RG in "round numbers". In the South we ALWAYS run standard jetting and float heights etc. Hence good reliability. You're comment on the totally stuffed tyre on the front is another clue to low lap times. Not only do TT900's lose grip as the wear, but stability goes out the window too. Under hard riding conditions this can be as early as 3 race meetings. Let'
    s say a "casual" rider about 6 max. If your tyre is noticebly out of shape in the tread shape, or old it is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS, so get a new one fast!
    Hope all this helps. Don't forget to save up for a South Island holiday in Jan and we look forward to supporting you at the nationals.

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    Round 4

    (can't read my blue font? Just left click and highlight it!
    Asking me to change font colour because you live in the 'Dark Universe' is like asking me to buy a Suzuki - It an't gunna happen!!)

    Manfield long track started well for me, as the damp track conditions and the extra corners give me a better chance at being at the right end off the field.
    I hoped to have got down to the test day beforehand, but I couldn't get the time of work, so it was a case of, try and remember the track 'on the day'.
    The streams of water flowing across the track in a couple of corners was a test in the 'mind games' department during practice, as focusing on them too much was a real corner speed killer. But I was pleased to again qualify fifth out of 17 in the class.

    I ran the qualifying session using a rich #150 main jet, which under that days, morning conditions, allowed the motor to pull really well right through the rev range. But for race one I allowed myself to be talked into jetting leaner again by those around me. Why I did that I don't know, as I already had it written in my race diary that the standard #140 jet wouldn't pull well in under those conditions, but decided to try it again. Sure enough, there was a noticeable lack of pull, and a top end burble at full revs with the #140 jetting. I had a bad start on go one and the re start of race one, so counted myself lucky too get away with coming home 9th.

    For race two it was time to go back to the morning jetting. But for learning sake, I chose to go one size richer still to a #152 and see what happened. The result was a good pull from the motor through most of the revs, but that pesky top end burble was still occurring. It was only 2 degrees warmer than the morning for this last race, so I proved to myself that a #150 jet was the ballpark jet at Manfield for MY bike, under that days temperature and barometric presser. Next step is making a jetting chart and fine tuning for each different raceday conditions.

    I know I muck around with my bike alot, but to me it's all part of the race day experience.

    Best move of the day I accomplished was, after passing Kyle (CBR250) as he was stopped mid lap, He got moving again and caught/passed me onto the long track area. I was able to stick with him through the corners and as we attacked the 'back track hair pin', I went from an outside line to pull underneath him through the tight corner, and found myself elbow to elbow with a man on a mission to take the same piece of track I was claiming. There was only one thing to do in the situation. Keep the throttle pinned! Death or Glory!!
    Sadly as my bike hit full revs, that burble kicked in and I lost ground on a CBR stretching it's legs. Another 9th place.

    I was 5 seconds off my previous Best Time for the long track, but that could have been just the amount of wind on the day.
    I see I am 7th in on the championship table, 1 point behind Kris in 6th, but with Kyle breathing down our two stroke fumes in 8th at the moment.

    Thanks for reading.
    Racey

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyster View Post
    ... There are 3 models of KR 150 in NZ. Yours is a '99, tho I can't figure out the wheels. Are they standard? ...
    I brought the bike from a wrecker, It's a KR150b and had those wheels on it then. The rear one is still the standard 18" and motor is just the standard 'a' model one. Original story here.

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    Hey Alex keep at it, 7th isnt to bad.


    Lets hope for this 2 day meeting we both get really really good results and me finsih a race at manfield tihs year.....

    Its my last chance lol
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    Round 5. Good news! Bad news!

    Well there’s only One race I need to comment on in depth.

    Saturday was again disappointing, with my ongoing top end burble problem still occuring. Having 26 riders our class was great (6 came up from Christchurch), but with only One ‘Hot lap’ in the clear in practice, I didn’t get one corner right and found myself qualifying 16th. Row four of the grid all weekend. The one good point in that was, being right against the pit wall, which allowed me a good run down and around the outside of all the traffic in corner One. My starts were good, and I constantly came out of Dunlop in 7th/8th place in my three races.

    Race One:
    Made a good start, but once we hit the straights, started going backwards. Came home 16th but equalled my BT on this KR of 1:35.

    Mentioning my problem to people brought up the idea that maybe my coil was
    breaking down under the heat. This got me thinking along the electrical line, and well... the first thing you do is change the spark plug. I took out the supposedly flash iridium #9 ($25) plug that someone had given me last year, and put in my old standard #8 Kr ($6) plug. And wouldn’t you know it, in the next race... that top end burble had disappeared!
    Finally the little Kr was running right!!

    Sunday Race Two:
    Started well... didn’t do too bad... come home 13th... bet my best time on the Kr 1:34. Still not at the 1:33 I did in my first year on a RG, but getting close.

    Race Three:
    So with the bike running well, Track and tyres grippy, Me feeling good, I was ready to give it everything to find out what I could do on this last race at Manfield this year. Good start, but Peter Jones has seen me taking that outside line a couple of times now, and he gets out on the edge there in front of me and I follow him around Dunlop. Things were going well and by the middle straight I found myself in SIXTH spot! The bike was running perfectly and I was able to hold that spot for another lap.

    Lap Two:
    Coming through Splash (S’s) I had 4 bikes right behind me followed by another big pack. Taking my usual wide entry into the hair pin I see #7 make a bold tight line passing manoeuvre. As he’s going in there I’m thinking, “thats not a great line at that speed mate, either you’re going to fall, or your have to go wide on the exit. Sure enough as I aimed underneath him, he fell. This hindered me for a moment and let the RG behind me get better drive and lead me down to Higgins. Coming out of Higgins I take a tighter line than most to save a few meters of track and made a small gain back on Patrick (RG150). Slipstream him down the back straight, pull out, passing, and regain my 6th spot as I lead three bikes through the sweeper.

    I don’t get the exit quite right and Patrick gets good drive and catches me down the straight. And then This!
    Roll tape ---



    So what happened there?
    Well this is my take on it.

    I crossed the start/finish line in front of Patrick, but he continued to gain on me as we powered down towards Dunlop. We were close enough to reach out and touch each other, but both had room to move. Three quarters of the way down the straight the ZXR250 came flying past us both on the inside. There was a large gap between me and the 250 at that point. I knew the 250 would brake much earlier than us 150’s would, so as there was a big gap there, and I was keen to defend my 6th place, Patrick and I both were at wide open throttle, planning to go straight back past the 250 before we started braking at our usual braking markers. That plan would have worked out fine, with me exiting Dunlop first, (as Patrick, although half a wheel infrount of me at this stage, couldn’t yet turn into the corner until I started my turning), but the 250 rider realised that he was not in a good track position to take the corner at speed, and while braking, started moving over into my line to get a better angle on the corner. Of course Me and Patrick are at full throttle, and in seconds this gap had closed up. I either pull sideways and take Patrick and I out, or I slam straight into the 250. What a choice!

    So I haul on the brakes (which work very well now), and as I see no option but of hitting the 250 I lean out and push my shoulder aganist rider and bike to try and keep our bikes seperated. I see now that this stuffed the weight distribution on my bike and the front wheel washed out, followed by the back coming round, and we both went down.

    I really don’t see what I could have done differently... other than think, “Oh the 250’s used it’s speed to get past me again, I better just follow him round like it’s a track day then.”

    Would be interested in your views.

    The bike was a bit trashed, but I had spares there and had it ready to go again in 30 minutes. I came away with hip and elbow bruses, and a sick feeling in my stomach for my racing Mate who I just had breakfast with that morning, taken away in the ambulance. Heal up Fast Mate.

    Racey.

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    Stoked for you that you've suddenly some form! Holding 6th place and battling well for it compared to 13th before that is great. All the best at the last round
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    you bastard!!!.. what's all this talk about "usall brake point"????

    where is that???...

    you were going well out there matey.. it is a GREAT shame russell bit the dust hard..

    hope he heals in time for taupo!

    you bastard you were beating me....
    (you and 20 others..lol)


    what a ride so far!!!!

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    Don't beat yourself up over the crash, Alex. The way I see it, you were between a rock and a hard place. Awesome to see the missing problem in the KR is gone, too. Go hard in the next round!

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