Biaggi is a dick (17 June)

[sAsLEX]

You're a dickhead if you torpedo someone midships....or if you lock the front and skittle them.

E l i a s

[Crasherfromwayback]

E l i a s

Yeah he's pretty hairy alright!

At the same time though....he rode like Satan himself was up his rectum at Portugal last year. It was (I thought anyway) a display of what he may well achieve if he lives long enough.

I mentioned last season that Casey Stoner was the man to watch this year....got laughed at. "He's a crasher!"

So what? You can teach a fast guy to stop crashing....or he'll learn himself.
Elias is the same this year.

Personally, I think it's the best thing that's ever happened to the 'Blue Ribbon' Class of motorcycle racing.

Young, hungry and slightly loose young guys trying their best to make a name in a class that was previously full of 'past their use by dates but I've got plenty of sponsorship money coming with me' soft cunts.

Surely you don't want it to be like it was when we had two or three fast guys out in front.....with no chance of an upset?

I said (yeah.....I've got a crystal ball) last year, that Hayden winning the championship was the best thing that's happened to Moto GP. And I stand by that.

Because now we've got a new breed of racer that's not afraid of Rossi anymore.
They saw him succumb to pressure in the last round. They belive he's only human now.

It's also bringing the best out of Rossi. Shit....he's ridden like the God of two wheeled racing he is this year. But he's still got it all in front of him.
Sure Stoners Duccati was way faster in the first couple of rounds. But the difference between the two bikes in Spain last weekend was not worth squat.

I say....let the young guys loose. Feed them ten Red Bulls before each race.
Light touch paper and stand well clear!

I love fireworks!!!

[aff-man]

Looked like a perfectly legit move to me... Don't know if haga would've run off though if biaggi had maybe 20cm more go I think he would have seen him in time to run the corner a bit wider and not hit him......... depends on the speed he was carrying of course

[Deano]

And yet, when I stuffed it up the inside of Jarrod Wintle, the last time I raced the fizzer, you were saying how cool a move it was. I saw a gap, knew he was gonna use that line, but got there first, how's it different. (Except for the obvious, him and I are not ever gonna be GP riders)

He didn't turn into you because you were already there and he knew it - hence my point about getting a wheel in front.

Biaggi was NEVER going to make that move stick - there simply was never going to be enough room. He may as well have torpedoed Haga midships, because that is effectively the end result.

[BigG]

Think ya might have been watching a different race mate If anyone hit anyone, Haga hit Biaggi, simply because he didn't know he was there.

When you're racing, you go for the gap. I'm learning that slowly.

Nicko's a fucken expert!

If you play back in slow mo frame by frame you will see that Hagga never moved a bit , he kept his line, Biagi took him out, He is still a Dick Anyway the second race was good and the placeings were justified.

[denill]

You will see that Hagga never moved a bit , he kept his line, Biagi took him out, He is still a Dick

Yeah, Haga didn't move a bit - because he didn't know a dickhead was coming through a non-existent gap.

[denill]

Some Pics of Haga and Biaggi in the kitty litter:

Like this caption: "You're Max Biagg. You just crashed, took out Haga and hurt your body. Can this get any worse? Yes. Rossi is standing in the corner you crashed in and you have to walk past him".

[codgyoleracer]

If you to have place blame - I would say lay it with Biaggi (just), as at no time did his front wheel pass hagas. Haga was on the same line that Biaggi had seen him take for many laps beforehand & it would be reasnoble to think that Biaggi would of planned the entire move. (he wouldnt plan to deliberatly hit haga as part of the move - he is made of blood & bone like the rest of us).
Biaggis mistake was not running through the first part of the corner & making the move beyond Hagas front wheel in the entry part of the corner. Instead he seemed to simply to try to hold a faster + tighter line which is a big call if your not certain of whether you can hold it or not.
If he had made the move in the first part of the corner & run a traditional "block pass" - they both would have exited albeit on a slower line.
White trash - a gap is not a gap if there aint no exit at the end of it. (thats called a dead end)
GlenW

[Crasherfromwayback]

White trash - a gap is not a gap if there aint no exit at the end of it. (thats called a dead end)
GlenW

No it's not. That's an unfinished tunnel.
There indeed was enough of a gap left there to make the pass.....he simply didn't quite carry it off.

[denill]

From where I sat (the armchair) the first thing Haga knew about Biaggi's move was when he said WTF, or whatever they say in Japanese, as he was sliding along the deck.

[madkeenandy]

max's fault.

if it was anywhere near a legit move, then haga would have noticed him and tryed to avoid the inevitable crash. Haga couldn't see max, so it was hardly any form of sticking a wheel in front, instead max went in, haga took his usual line, completely oblivious to max, and hey presto its time for asphalte surfing.........

but saying that, you can argue on whoes fault it was for years, when its still racing, and this has always happened, and always will. If he had pulled it off it would have been a brilliant pass, he didn't so it was a bad move. Haga will get over it and thorougly thrash max next round anyway, hes still in contention for the title...

[ZeroIndex]

I thought this was going to be an old post seeing how this is exactly how Biaggi used to race... All or nothing... I bet he front-tuck-lowsided it going to fast into a corner?

Wayne Rainey: Oh, it's not a rivalry at all. I haven't seen Biaggi win anything.

Random quote: I saw Biaggi crash today and didn't think twice about it because I've seen him do it countless times under pressure from Rossi or trying to match Valentino's pace. He did it twice at the end of last season. Nothing new...

[Brian d marge]

well just watched that race
Haga was drifting wide and there was a gap ( i watched the European version ) On saying that max a few corners earlier had a big old slide
So if the pass was earlier in the race , it would have stuck imho.

I couldnt see who touched who . ( think max lost his front , ) but Haga definitely went wide from the view i saw

Stephen

boring race though