Wrong gear? Injury photos

[TheTourist]

Hi guys
After a fantastic 6 months riding round NZ, I returned to the UK and became a Motorcycle Road Safety officer.

I am currently organising a campaign and series of presentations aimed at young scooter riders. One aspect of this is to persuade them that wearing a t-shirt and a pair of jandals is not the best kind of protection in a spill.

My question is this (I hope you don't think this distasteful): does anyone have any photos of injuries they have sustained in a bike crash? Especially if the correct gear was not being worn...

I would like to use these for non commercial, non internet based presentations. I will not identify anyone by name. Faces will not be shown. If you send me any, you are agreeing that I can use the pics for this purpose only.

This is about helping other riders to learn from our mistakes. Can anyone help?

Many thanks
Dan

[Sam I Am]

Good on you mate when i use to see scooter riders in east london in shorts and tshirts with lids undone or worse perched on head above ears ( seemd to be a cool treand there) i used to pull up along side and go tell them to google "what a skin graft is" for 5 minutes rather then looking at porn all night ...

dont know if it ever did any good .......... but i winds me up rotten

[bobsmith]

Have you looked at http://www.ride2die.com you could ask the admin if you could use some of those...

[Macktheknife]

Just a thought, it might also pay to show what happens to the right gear when worn in an off. I know that I felt a perverse sense of happiness when I looked at all the damage to my gear lying on the ground after the accident and went "Wow, glad that wasn't me"

[Alpha Solo]

Good on you mate.

I can see the same stupidity taking off in Christchurch, I told some kid on a scoot that nearly got sandwiched into a parked car that maybe a tracksuit isn't going to help him as much as a bike jacket with protection would. He told me to F@@k off, pulled out into the moving traffic and continued to ride down a long line of traffic on the inside at full speed, low and behold about 100 metres down the road I see the same scooter on it's side and the scooterist's imprint in the side of a car that pulled in without checking his mirrors (apparently) - And it's not even summer here yet...

I reckon somebody should do a scooter training session with every one sold...

[avgas]

How about XRays? I can bring mine to work and get them scanned if it will help someone else.

[Wasp27]

Search on youtube.com should do the trick

[bell]

Hi guys
After a fantastic 6 months riding round NZ, I returned to the UK and became a Motorcycle Road Safety officer.

Curious to know who employs you as a Motorcycle Road Safety Officer Dan?

Great idea BTW.

And that ride2die site was worth a look too. Not for those with a weak stomach...

[slopster]

This will go against the grain but I don't think safety gear is that important for scooter riders. They only go 50kmh. I have had lots of cycling crashes at higher speeds wearing little more than a helmet and yes it hurts like buggery and you lose a bit of skin but I think you'd be unlucky to lose so much as to need skin grafts etc and cause long term dammage. Most the injuries are strains and fractures anyway and leathers arn't going to help you there. Helmets are an absolute must though you don't want to take chances there. I always wear leathers on a motorcycle but then I don't go 50kmh much of the time either.

[howdamnhard]

This will go against the grain but I don't think safety gear is that important for scooter riders. They only go 50kmh. I have had lots of cycling crashes at higher speeds wearing little more than a helmet and yes it hurts like buggery and you lose a bit of skin but I think you'd be unlucky to lose so much as to need skin grafts etc and cause long term dammage. Most the injuries are strains and fractures anyway and leathers arn't going to help you there. Helmets are an absolute must though you don't want to take chances there. I always wear leathers on a motorcycle but then I don't go 50kmh much of the time either.

I disagree,I've had two low speed spills and if I wasn't wearing protective gear I would have lost a lot of skin on my right hand , side and foot.One tends to use ones hands a lot so losing the skin off your them can be a bit of an inconvenience.

[discotex]

This will go against the grain but I don't think safety gear is that important for scooter riders. They only go 50kmh. I have had lots of cycling crashes at higher speeds wearing little more than a helmet and yes it hurts like buggery and you lose a bit of skin but I think you'd be unlucky to lose so much as to need skin grafts etc and cause long term dammage. Most the injuries are strains and fractures anyway and leathers arn't going to help you there. Helmets are an absolute must though you don't want to take chances there. I always wear leathers on a motorcycle but then I don't go 50kmh much of the time either.

I'd rather be wearing CE approved armour and abrasion resistant material when my elbow/shoulder/knee/arse hits the road. Sure it might not stop an injury but it will certainly reduce the damage.

I like my fingers too. Wearing decent gloves, footwear and a helmet has to be a bare minimum. Shorts, t-shirt and jandals/bare feet is just pure darwin awards stuff.

I figure everyone can make up their own mind around the risks with the other gear. E.g. I wear jacket, jeans (with kevlar when they're clean),boots, and gloves to work (unless it's cold/wet when I add pants). If I'm going out for a decent ride I'll always add the pants and at some stage soon I'll add the back protector.

Scooters don't go over 50km/h? I bet learner riders don't go over 70km/h either ... At least 2 of the >50cc scooters here at work ride on the motorways at 100+.

[Hitcher]

A lot of riders know the risks but don't understand the consequences. There are some lessons best learned through experience.

[lealand]

Jezz just had a look at the site bit of a shocker (and Im a paramedic) mind many years ago I spent over a year in and out of hospital ...mechanical problem with the bike did it for me ......many years later im back on the beasts again ....but i know and understand the consequences

[JimO]

check out the taco bell thread

[cooneyr]

This will go against the grain but I don't think safety gear is that important for scooter riders. They only go 50kmh. I have had lots of cycling crashes at higher speeds wearing little more than a helmet and yes it hurts like buggery and you lose a bit of skin but I think you'd be unlucky to lose so much as to need skin grafts etc and cause long term dammage. Most the injuries are strains and fractures anyway and leathers arn't going to help you there. Helmets are an absolute must though you don't want to take chances there. I always wear leathers on a motorcycle but then I don't go 50kmh much of the time either.

I disagree too. I've rode a treadly to work Chch almost every day between 2001 to 2005. I've have a few incidents (steel tram tracks in the wet and stupid cagers) and had a few offs. These were mostly at 25-30kph and I came away with some serious gravel rash from a couple of them. It was not deep but as it dries and hardens it can be damn uncomfortable. All of the gravel rash was under the clothing I was wearing and the clothing was generally intact. Got a nice pic from one incident but I'm not putting them on here

I saw two young fullers ripping along the LHS of two lanes of stationary traffic at ~50kph. Firemen cruising in a truck pulled them up and gave them a barreling. 1km down the road they were back at it. Dumb F^&%s.

Cheers R