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    Poetry

    I wouldn't say I spend a lot of time reading it but from time to time it makes a welcome change from my usual diet of scfi,thrillers,fantasy and I've seen references in other post indicating a few more of the members read the odd bit off it.

    I have a few personal favourites,Samuel Taylor Coleridge's,Kubla Khan being one of them

    In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
    A stately pleasure dome decree:
    Where Alph, the sacred river, ran
    Through caverns measureless to man
    Down to a sunless sea.

    So twice five miles of fertile ground
    With walls and towers were girdled round:
    And here were gardens bright with sinuous rills,
    Where blossomed many an incense-bearing tree,
    And here were forests ancient as the hills,
    Enfolding sunny spots of greenery.

    But oh! that deep romantic chasm which slanted
    Down the green hill athwart a cedarn cover!
    A savage place; as holy and enchanted
    As e'er beneath a waning moon was haunted
    By woman wailing for her demon-lover!
    And from this chasm, with ceaseless turmoil seething,
    As if this earth in fast thick pants were breathing,
    A mighty fountain momently was forced,
    Amid whose swift half-intermitted burst
    Huge fragments vaulted like rebounding hail,
    Or chaffy grain beneath the thresher's flail:
    And 'mid these dancing rocks at once and ever
    It flung up momently the sacred river.
    Five miles meandering with a mazy motion
    Through wood and dale the sacred river ran,
    Then reached the caverns measureless to man,
    And sank in tumult to a lifeless ocean:
    And 'mid this tumult Kubla heard from far
    Ancestral voices prophesying war!

    The shadow of the dome of pleasure
    Floated midway on the waves;
    Where was heard the mingled measure
    From the fountain and the caves.
    It was a miracle of rare device,
    A sunny pleasure dome with caves of ice!

    A damsel with a dulcimer
    In a vision once I saw:
    It was an Abyssinian maid,
    And on her dulcimer she played,
    Singing of Mount Abora.
    Could I revive within me
    Her symphony and song,

    To such a deep delight 'twould win me,
    That with music loud and long,
    I would build that dome in air,
    That sunny dome! Those caves of ice!
    And all who heard should see them there,
    And all should cry, Beware! Beware!
    His flashing eyes, his floating hair!
    Weave a circle round him thrice,
    And close your eyes with holy dread,
    For he on honey dew hath fed,
    And drunk the milk of Paradise.

    I also like his "the Rime of the Ancient Mariner
    other would be
    Dylan Thomas "Do not go gentle into that good night"
    http://www.poets.org/poems/poems.cfm...7C000C07040C7A

    Rudyrd Kipling "If"
    http://www.swarthmore.edu/~apreset1/docs/if.html

    Shakespeare's "St Crispins day"
    http://www.chronique.com/Library/Knights/crispen.htm

    I've also recently been introduced to the works of Maya Angelou but someone else will be along to tell you about her.
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    Too many favourites I wouldn't know where to begin so I'll just list some poets instead.

    Baudelaire
    Rimbaude
    Ginsberg
    Blake
    Jim Morrison
    Goethe
    Byron
    S.T. Colleridge (favourite being Kubla Khan, thanks Kickaha)
    Verlaine
    ....
    ....

    Although not a poet, I'll finish off with the opening passage from Putting My Foot In It by Rene Crevel.

    Sun and Tradition... The dazzling light and the firm intention not to be blinded by it, etc, etc...

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    "Get Drunk!"


    One should always be drunk. That's all that matters;
    that's our one imperative need. So as not to feel Time's
    horrible burden one which breaks your shoulders and bows
    you down, you must get drunk without cease.

    But with what?
    With wine, poetry, or virtue
    as you choose.
    But get drunk.

    And if, at some time, on steps of a palace,
    in the green grass of a ditch,
    in the bleak solitude of your room,
    you are waking and the drunkenness has already abated,
    ask the wind, the wave, the stars, the clock,
    all that which flees,
    all that which groans,
    all that which rolls,
    all that which sings,
    all that which speaks,
    ask them, what time it is;
    and the wind, the wave, the stars, the birds, and the clock,
    they will all reply:

    "It is time to get drunk!

    So that you may not be the martyred slaves of Time,
    get drunk, get drunk,
    and never pause for rest!
    With wine, poetry, or virtue,
    as you choose!"

    - Charles Baudelaire.

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    There once was a young lass named Sally
    Who enjoyed the occasional dally.
    She sat in the lap
    Of a well-endowed chap
    And said, "Oooh, you're right up my alley".
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    I`m not sure if it`s poetry or philosophy but a little book I`ve got a lot from is "The Prophet" by Khalil Ghibran,sold millions all over the world.It`s writen as a story but you can open it at any page and read truly moving and relevent writing.Example here:

    http://www.columbia.edu/~gm84/gibran4.html

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    Poetry - one of those forms of writing I truly admire but don't spend enough time exploring. I do love Shakespeare, just the richness of the language - even though I sometimes don't understand it. Love Robbie Burns - my Scottish heritage showing through! And a lot of the other well known older poets as well Maya Angelou http://www.empirezine.com/spotlight/maya/maya-p1.htm She has some really gritty stuff but one of my favs is this one:

    "Phenomenal Woman"

    Pretty women wonder where my secret lies.
    I'm not cute or built to suit a fashion model's size
    But when I start to tell them,
    They think I'm telling lies.
    I say,
    It's in the reach of my arms
    The span of my hips,
    The stride of my step,
    The curl of my lips.
    I'm a woman
    Phenomenally.
    Phenomenal woman,
    That's me.

    I walk into a room
    Just as cool as you please,
    And to a man,
    The fellows stand or
    Fall down on their knees.
    Then they swarm around me,
    A hive of honey bees.
    I say,
    It's the fire in my eyes,
    And the flash of my teeth,
    The swing in my waist,
    And the joy in my feet.
    I'm a woman
    Phenomenally.
    Phenomenal woman,
    That's me.

    Men themselves have wondered
    What they see in me.
    They try so much
    But they can't touch
    My inner mystery.
    When I try to show them
    They say they still can't see.
    I say,
    It's in the arch of my back,
    The sun of my smile,
    The ride of my breasts,
    The grace of my style.
    I'm a woman

    Phenomenally.
    Phenomenal woman,
    That's me.

    Now you understand
    Just why my head's not bowed.
    I don't shout or jump about
    Or have to talk real loud.
    When you see me passing
    It ought to make you proud.
    I say,
    It's in the click of my heels,
    The bend of my hair,
    the palm of my hand,
    The need of my care,
    'Cause I'm a woman
    Phenomenally.
    Phenomenal woman,
    That's me.
    My goal in life is to be as good a person as my dog already thinks I am.

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    This is my next fav poem. By John Masefield http://www.publishingcentral.com/mas...biography.html

    To be honest I don't know anything about him but this poem describes a part of me.

    "Sea Fever"

    I must go down to the sea again, to the lonely sea and the sky,
    And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by;
    And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,
    And a grey mist on the sea's face, and a grey dawn breaking.

    I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide
    Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;
    And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,
    And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.

    I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,
    To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;
    And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,
    And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over
    My goal in life is to be as good a person as my dog already thinks I am.

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    Quite apart from naughty limericks, my favourite poem (although I'm not as well-read as I'd like to be) is probably The Hollow Men, by T. S. Eliot:

    I

    We are the hollow men
    We are the stuffed men
    Leaning together
    Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
    Our dried voices, when
    We whisper together
    Are quiet and meaningless
    As wind in dry grass
    Or rats' feet over broken glass
    In our dry cellar

    Shape without form, shade without colour,
    Paralysed force, gesture without motion;

    Those who have crossed
    With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
    Remember us -- if at all -- not as lost
    Violent souls, but only
    As the hollow men
    The stuffed men.

    II

    Eyes I dare not meet in dreams
    In death's dream kingdom
    These do not appear:
    There, the eyes are
    Sunlight on a broken column
    There, is a tree swinging
    And voices are
    In the wind's singing
    More distant and more solemn
    Than a fading star.

    Let me be no nearer
    In death's dream kingdom
    Let me also wear
    Such deliberate disguises
    Rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves
    In a field
    Behaving as the wind behaves
    No nearer --

    Not that final meeting
    In the twilight kingdom

    III

    This is the dead land
    This is cactus land
    Here the stone images
    Are raised, here they receive
    The supplication of a dead man's hand
    Under the twinkle of a fading star.

    Is it like this
    In death's other kingdom
    Waking alone
    At the hour when we are
    Trembling with tenderness
    Lips that would kiss
    Form prayers to broken stone.

    IV

    The eyes are not here
    There are no eyes here
    In this valley of dying stars
    In this hollow valley
    This broken jaw of our lost kingdoms

    In this last of meeting places
    We grope together
    And avoid speech
    Gathered on this beach of the tumid river

    Sightless, unless
    The eyes reappear
    As the perpetual star
    Multifoliate rose
    Of death's twilight kingdom
    The hope only
    Of empty men.

    V

    Here we go round the prickly pear
    Prickly pear prickly pear
    Here we go round the prickly pear
    At five o'clock in the morning.

    Between the idea
    And the reality
    Between the motion
    And the act
    Falls the Shadow

    For Thine is the Kingdom

    Between the conception
    And the creation
    Between the emotion
    And the response
    Falls the Shadow

    Life is very long

    Between the desire
    And the spasm
    Between the potency
    And the existence
    Between the essence
    And the descent
    Falls the Shadow
    For Thine is the Kingdom

    For Thine is
    Life is
    For Thine is the

    This is the way the world ends
    This is the way the world ends
    This is the way the world ends
    Not with a bang but a whimper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic_Sea_lily
    Phenomenal woman,
    That's me.
    You sure her name wasn't Sally?
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    - mikey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha
    ... For he on honey dew hath fed,
    And drunk the milk of Paradise.
    Amazing what one can construct with the help of a bit of opium, isn't it? An evil drug it may have been, but I don't think we'll see any enduring works of art from people under the influence of methamphetamines.

    Pity that most modern writers seem to be obsessed with their own existential angst.

    Dylan Thomas's Do Not Go Gentle is Mrs Random's favourite poem, too.
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    My favourite poet

    And I'm being genuinely serious ... is Dr. Seus.

    We like our bike.
    It is made for three.
    Our Mike
    sits up in back,
    you see.

    We like our Mike
    and this is why:
    Mike does all the work
    when the hills get high.

    Or my personal favourite.

    Bump!
    Bump!
    Bump!
    Did you ever ride a Wump?
    We have a Wump
    with just one hump.

    But
    we know a man
    called Mr. Gump.
    Mr Gump has a seven hump Wump.
    So . . .
    if you like to go Bump! Bump!
    just jump on the hump of the Wump of Gump.
    RED RED RED
    I WANT
    RED
    The count is at 1064 points




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    Others...

    But I also like Lord Byron too...

    ...I stood among them,
    but not of them;
    in a shroud of thoughts
    which were not their thoughts....

    RED RED RED
    I WANT
    RED
    The count is at 1064 points




    'Scuse me. Do you f**k as well as you dance?

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    Second Delirium: The Alchemy Of The Word


    My turn now. The story of one of my insanities.

    For a long time I boasted that I was master of all possible landscapes-- and I thought the great figures of modern painting and poetry were laughable.

    What I liked were: absurd paintings, pictures over doorways, stage sets, carnival backdrops, billboards, bright-colored prints, old-fashioned literature, church Latin, erotic books full of misspellings, the kind of novels our grandmothers read, fairy tales, little children's books, old operas, silly old songs, the naοve rhythms of country rimes.

    I dreamed of Crusades, voyages of discovery that nobody had heard of, republics without histories, religious wars stamped out, revolutions in morals, movements of races and continents; I used to believe in every kind of magic.

    I invented colors for the vowels! A black, E white, I red, O blue, U green. I made rules for the form and movement of every consonant, and I boasted of inventing, with rhythms from within me, a kind of poetry that all the senses, sooner or later, would recognize. And I alone would be its translator.

    I began it as an investigation. I turned silences and nights into words. What was unutterable, I wrote down. I made the whirling world stand still.


    Far from flocks, from birds and country girls,
    What did I drink within that leafy screen
    Surrounded by tender hazlenut trees
    In the warm green mist of afternoon?

    What could I drink from this young Oise
    --Toungeless trees, flowerless grass, dark skies--
    Drink from these yellow gourds, far from the hut
    I loved? Some golden draught that made me sweat.

    I would have made a doubtful sign for an inn.
    Later, toward evening, the sky filled with clouds...
    Water from the woods runs out on virgin sands,
    And heavenly winds cast ice thick on the ponds;

    Then I saw gold, and wept, but could not drink.

    * * *

    At four in the morning, in summertime,
    Love's drowsiness still lasts...
    The bushes blow away the odor
    Of the night's feast.

    Beyond the bright Hesperides,
    Within the western workshop of the Sun,
    Carpenters scramble-- in shirtsleeves--
    Work is begun.

    And in desolate, moss-grown isles
    They raise their precious panels
    Where the city
    Will paint a hollow sky.

    For these charming dabblers in the arts
    Who labor for a King in Babylon,
    Venus! Leave for a moment
    Lovers' haloed hearts...

    O Queen of Shepherds!
    Carry the purest eau-de-vie
    To these workmen while they rest
    And take their bath at noonday, in the sea.


    The worn-out ideas of old-fashioned poetry played an important part in my alchemy of the word.

    I got used to elementary hallucination: I could very precisely see a mosque instead of a factory, a drum corps of angels, horse carts on the highways of the sky, a drawing room at the bottom of a lake; monsters and mysteries. A vaudeville's title filled me with awe.

    And so I explained my magical sophistries by turning words into visions!

    At last, I began to consider my mind's disorder a sacred thing. I lay about idle, consumed by an oppressive fever: I envied the bliss of animals-- caterpillars, who portray the innocence of a second childhood; moles, the slumber of virginity!

    My mind turned sour. I said farewell to the world in poems something like ballads:


    A SONG FROM THE HIGHEST TOWER

    Let it come, let it come,
    The season we can love!

    I have waited so long
    That at length I forget,
    And leave unto heaven
    My fear and regret;

    A sick thirst
    Darkens my veins.

    Let it come, let it come,
    the season we can love!

    So the green field
    To oblivion falls,
    Overgrown, flowering,
    With incense and weeds.

    And the cruel noise
    Of dirty flies.

    Let it come, let it come,
    the season we can love!



    I loved the desert, burnt orchards, tired old shops, warm drinks. I dragged myself through stinking alleys, and with my eyes closed I offered myself to the sun, the god of fire.

    "General: If on your ruined ramparts one cannon still remains, shell us with clods of dried-up earth. Shatter the mirrors of expensive shops! And the drawing rooms! Make the city swallow its dust! Turn gargoyles to rust. Stuff boudoirs with rubies' fiery powder...."

    Oh, the little fly! Drunk at the urinal of a country inn, in love with rotting weeds; a ray of light dissolves him!



    I only find within my bones
    A taste for eating earth and stones.
    When I feed, I feed on air,
    Rocks and coals and iron ore.

    My hunger, turn. Hunger, feed:
    A field of bran.
    Gather as you can the bright
    Poison weed.

    Eat the rocks a beggar breaks,
    The stones of ancient churches' walls,
    Pebbles, children of the flood,
    Loaves left lying in the mud.

    * * *

    Beneath the bush a wolf will howl,
    Spitting bright feathers
    From his feast of fowl:
    Like him, I devour myself.

    Waiting to be gathered
    Fruits and grasses spend their hours;
    The spider spinning in the hedge
    Eats only flowers.

    Let me sleep! Let me boil
    On the altars of Solomon;
    Let me soak the rusty soil
    And flow into Kendron.



    Finally, O reason, O happiness, I cleared from the sky the blue which is darkness, and I lived as a golden spark of this light, Nature. In my delight, I made my face look as comic and as wild as I could:



    It is recovered.
    What? Eternity.
    In the whirling light
    Of the sun in the sea.

    O my eternal soul,
    Hold fast to desire
    In spite of the night
    And the day on fire.

    You must set yourself free
    From the striving of Man
    And the applause of the World!
    You must fly as you can...

    No hope, forever;
    No _orietur._
    Science and patience,
    The torment is sure.

    The fire within you,
    Soft silken embers,
    Is our whole duty--
    But no one remembers.

    It is recovered.
    What? Eternity.
    In the whirling light
    Of the sun in the sea.



    I became a fabulous opera. I saw that everyone in the world was doomed to happiness. Action isn't life; it's merely a way of ruining a kind of strength, a means of destroying nerves. Morality is water on the brain.

    It seemed to me that everyone should have had several other lives as well. This gentleman doesn't know what he's doing; he's an angel. That family is a litter of puppy dogs. With some men, I often talked out loud with a moment from one of their other lives-- that's how I happened to love a pig.

    Not a single one of the brilliant arguments of madness-- the madness that gets locked up-- did I forget; I could go through them all again, I've got the system down by heart.

    It affected my health. Terror loomed ahead. I would fall again and again into a heavy sleep, which lasted several days at a time, and when I woke up, my sorrowful dreams continued. I was ripe for fatal harvest, and my weakness led me down dangerous roads to the edge of the world, to the Cimmerian shore, the haven of whirlwinds and darkness.

    I had to travel, to dissipate the enchantments that crowded my brain. On the sea, which I loved as if it were to wash away my impurity, I watched the compassionate cross arise. I had been damned by the rainbow. Felicity was my doom, my gnawing remorse, my worm. My life would forever be too large to devote to strength and to beauty.

    Felicity! The deadly sweetness of its sting would wake me at cockcrow-- ad matutinum, at the Christus venit-- in the somberest of cities.



    O seasons, O chateaus!
    Where is the flawless soul?

    I learned the magic of
    Felicity. It enchants us all.

    To Felicity, sing life and praise
    Whenever Gaul's cock crows.

    Now all desire has gone--
    It has made my life its own.

    That spell has caught heart and soul
    And scattered every trial.

    O seasons, O chateaus!

    And, oh, the day it disappears
    Will be the day I die.

    O seasons, O chateaus!



    All that is over. Today, I know how to celebrate beauty.

    - Arthur Rimbaud

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    Poetry is bollocks, written by effette little whacked-out Opium addicts.

    It has the same effect on me as Kenny G. It makes me want to kill..............

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    Ok, one for the english critics to tear apart.

    I am the Predator,
    I am the biker,
    I prey on the souls of my brothers,
    I am the predator,
    I am the biker,
    I am the keeper of my brother,
    The price be exact,
    It be half and half only of what I give,
    I am the predator,
    I am the biker,
    I am the keeper of my sister,
    From my sister I take nothing,
    She owns my all,
    For I am the predator,
    I prey on the soul of my brother,
    The pride I demand is high,
    half of all I give,
    For I give my all,
    I am the biker,
    I am the elite,
    With my brothers I do ride,
    I am a biker,
    I shall die,
    My brother will remember,
    For I am the biker,
    I am the predator,
    A user of soul.

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