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    Ever noticed how some relatives bore you to tears at family get togethers? How Christmas always seems to pack 96 hours of torture into 2 days?

    Kiwibiker is unique, but is wavering on the edge of a precipice.

    My "thing" is communication. Riding a bike lets me commune with the environment in a way that city bound folk don't understand, and that country folk can grasp but refuse to acknowledge as an acceptable pass time (generally) because we as a collective group, on or off-road, have the potential to sidestep generally acceptable behaviour (legal limits) at will. As a syntagm of the transport paradigm we can avoid rules, flout laws, and enjoy activities that hurts us, sometimes fatally. But we "get " how that can happen, and to a certain extent celebrate the vitality of our existence.

    But communication carries a burden of responsibility. Kiwibiker is not a normal forum based Internet syntagm. It is a paradigm in its own right. We have created something that broaches physical and virtual communication barriers, and as such we are leading the human conciousness in integrating communication media.

    We are a specialist group. We have an interest in that improbable transport medium, the two-wheeled conveyance, that doesn't fall over unless we fall off, or forget to put a foot down.

    That means YOU. You do something that diverges from the historical flow of human experience. Not only do you use a means of transport that has a tenuous grasp on the physical world, you use an electronic medium that has only become a valid vehicle of discourse in human experience in only the last 3 generations of human beings.

    So why do so many of you forget that there is a person on the other end of your sometimes outrageous, almost violent accusatory posts and private messages, go out of your way to poison such a fantastic blooming of human communication conciousness, one with extreme emotional and mental impact that exceeds anything that we have done before as a race? This opportunity will pass.

    This freedom of human expression, even limited to a subject that can be defined as a suck, bang, blow motive power, strung together between two wheels, defies comprehension for out grandparents generation. I don't care if you are 15 or 50, your Grandparents did not have the scope available to them to say what they thought, to add to the collective conciousness.

    All the people you meet on here are real. You could go for a ride with them tomorrow. I guarantee you would find something about them to like.

    Because they are more you than not.

    Stop being rude to your siblings. We get Christmas every day, and we should not let boredom, ennui, and familiarity lessen our experience of our fellow beings human.
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    um wouldn't a "please be polite" be easier on the brain...

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    Sheeeiit Jim2!
    You've discovered drugs or red wine.

    For what it's worth I enjoy KB even though in the short 18 months or so I've been here it has certainly changed.
    I have noticed that many of the threads have become more inane (witness 'To Pee Or Not To Pee' - that reminds me I must resurrect that) and there are a lot of members that don't accept disagreement or recognise irony.

    Also...to me down here the KB environment is mostly a 'cyberspace' thing whereas to youse up there it is more real.

    Anyway, at the end of the day, it's like being at the pub. If you don't want to talk to a person you can either get into a fight with them or ignore them and stick to your own group.
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    Very nicely said Jim.
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    Nice thought. Wont work.

    You know why? Because unfortunately there's people on here (myself included) who have small pecker syndrome and enjoy mercilessly ribbing others who also have small pecker syndrome.

    And some of them have nothing to like.........
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    For some people, its hard for them to say 'Jim2[or equivalent], I like you....I think you are neat'. The mechanism they use is to rib another, or give them a very hard time. You are right that sometimes it is malicious and improper, but its difficult to tell the difference in some cases.

    I still think Poos is a twat though . note well placed smilie

    btw - my head hurts from dictionary.com-ing furiously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skelstar

    btw - my head hurts from dictionary.com-ing furiously.
    Please use correct punctuation.
    Should read - BTW - my head hurts from dictionary. Coming furiously.
    Hint - it's all those big words. You should use another publication with 'big' things in it for inspiration.
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    Agree with ya Jim2 but as the saying goes "you can please....".
    I haven't been a member here long but have taken some bloody useful info from here,met some good/hardcase riders and their mates,learnt some alternative routes to take and so on. Only got MYSELF pissed off at one member ( racist ) but got over that quick as it was merely words on my screen and I don't intend on meeting that particular person anyway.
    Great site...Looking forward to meeting others in the future



    Quote Originally Posted by skelstar
    ...btw - my head hurts from dictionary.com-ing furiously.
    Yep!

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    Agree with you that KB is a unique communcation medium My belief is that people only piss you off if you let them.

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    Pretty deep post Jim!

    IMO, internet forums *should* remain impersonal, unless we are actively meeting other members face to face and then communicating online. There are many on here who don't participate in KB meetings & events so they remain strangers in a sense and miss out on the 'putting a face to the online persona' experience. Maybe it should be made compulsory for all members to attend one meeting/event every three months or summat just so we all keep a clear perspective that we are talking to real people through our computers.

    At the end of the day we are all unique individuals, with personalities and characters that can clash from time to time. Meeting one another in the flesh has a way of healing those clashes and forming a stronger, healthier relationship with other members, and I am speaking from experience.

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    Very thoughtful post Jim. For myself I just treat everybody with the respect they deserve, or if they don't deserve any because they are prats, then I treat them as I wish to be treated-its easy really!
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    jeeez jim you must be a stink speller....heaps of words in your post that mean nothing to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    So why do so many of you forget that there is a person on the other end of your sometimes outrageous, almost violent accusatory posts and private messages,
    Well, IMHO the human is just another animal at the end of the day, be it on line, at work or road rage.... 'survival' is what powers the most of us which means putting others down in order to keep our heads above water..... 'greed' is our biggest down fall.
    Instinct to survive.... some people are just born wankers, always have been always will be, so things wont change around here as WT says.
    ....... Me I dont let them bother me as there is way to much good shit going on to get involved in (takes less effort to) nice thread Jim.... but deaf ears and alll that
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    Yeah

    I've noticed the change in flavour recently. I've noticed the absence of some of the peeps i used to enjoy reading a lot. But i haven't formulated any deep theories. The forum still has it's good points.

    I have wondered at the diff b'twixt this and the SV1000 forum. They tend to go about their forum business in a more focused way (okay, so it's limited to one make mainly).

    And there are fark all "momma's gonna knock you down" posts. In fact i can't remember seeing one - somebody will probably post a url that blows that but i'm saying they seem to get on 99.9% of the time - far less macho-remote-bullshit.

    Which makes me laugh, cos in my meagre experience, it's the people that don't bother giving you the verbal that you really need to be concerned with.

    Maybe it's the kiwi psyche - we love to knock eachother round, but the sv1000 forum users seem a little more united by the ties that bind them.

    I'm all for the good ol ribbing - as long as there's an underlying "she's right mate"...

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