Death penalty

[Hitcher]

Against. It's barbaric state-sanctioned revenge killing. It provides no deterrent to the crimes for which it is imposed. If people can only have their grief/fury assuaged by the shedding of more blood, they need serious therapy, not a death penalty.

HTFU.

[Grahameeboy]

Sorry momentary rebellious lapse earlier...

You have a point TL.....death is the end so they do not suffer whereas in prison they suffer.........now there will be exceptions like Colapop raises but you have a point.

[Flatcap]

Against. It's barbaric state-sanctioned revenge killing. It provides no deterrent to the crimes for which it is imposed. If people can only have their grief/fury assuaged by the shedding of more blood, they need serious therapy, not a death penalty.

HTFU.

There is a fate worse than death, however.

I for one would not like to have my boyish good looks swapped nightly for cigarettes while serving life in maximum security

[98tls]

Against. It's barbaric state-sanctioned revenge killing. It provides no deterrent to the crimes for which it is imposed. If people can only have their grief/fury assuaged by the shedding of more blood, they need serious therapy, not a death penalty.

HTFU.

Nope.......hang em......then theres just urine to deal with.An almost comical post.....once again i will point out that by ridding the world of them then at least we can assume they wont do it again,best we can hope for i guess.And fwiw once again i will say if the worst happens to one of your loved ones i would bet your answer would be different to this question but hey enjoy the bubble

[98tls]

Do you really believe that someone that fucks children will get over it by talking about it........therapy.........If you truely do then you need to climb out from under the rock and see a bit of life....but then again i guess you would take the therapy option.........

[imdying]

Hmmmm, losing a few innocents due to wrongful conviction vs saving thousands of innocents from repeat offenders... what a tough choice. If we put the ex prisons money into the justice system, that might go some way towards keeping wrong convictions to an absolute minimum.

[Trudes]

Against, for the same reasons as Mom, Hitcher and Jim2.

[MisterD]

Aah - so you are an advocate for the guillotine.

No discussion about the death penalty is complete without mention of the form it will take.

Guillotine: Quick but messy
Firing Squad: Not so quick, messy, but impressive
Lethal injection: A bit boring with little suffering
Electric chair: Can go wrong, and probably bad for the ozone layer.
Hanging: Cheap and effective, good family entertainment

What have I missed?

The scorpion pit, I'm sure Auckland zoo could find some space next to the kids petting zoo area...

[Sanx]

The death penalty does not act as a deterrent. The crime figures in the USA (with the second-highest per-capita execution rates in the world after China) are proof.

Yes, people get convicted of murder, get let out after ten years, then go on to re-offend. There's a really simply solution. Don't let the fuckers out. "Life imprisonment" gets its name from the fact it used to mean "life"; you were kept in jail until you died. Yes, the prison population would go up a bit, but if the tree-hugging nancies responsible for prisoners getting three square meals, fully-equipped gyms and LCD TVs stopped campaigning for prisoners' rights, maybe jail would cease to be such an attractive option for the recidivist work-shy scum that seem to inhabit half of South Auckland.

The death penalty is never an option as it removes the ability of the state to right a wrong.

Take the UK. Ten people jailed for two separate incidents (pub bombings) in the 1970s. If we'd had the death penalty, they'd have all been executed. Seventeen years on, it was discovered that the Police division responsible for investigating had simply fabricated evidence, withheld other evidence and lied through their teeth in order to get a conviction. They simply picked up conveniently Irish-sounding guys and jailed 'em. Also didn't help that forensic evidence that they'd all recently-handled explosives was discredited; the same positive result could come from having recently handled playing cards.

So, after seventeen odd years, the ten people were released and their convictions quashed. They were able to get back to their wives and kids. They were able to resume something approaching a normal life. They couldn't have done it if they'd been executed.

There's not evidence coming from the States that many prisoners on death row are there incorrectly. Many states have introduced moratoria on executions and are re-examing cases. Illionois alone released 13 people on death row in 2000, due to unsafe convictions. Over a hundred people have been released from death row and later had their convictions overturned in the last ten years.

You can let someone out of jail. You can't let someone out of a grave.

[doc]

kill them i say!!!

Grahameeboy calm down you must not retaliate. I'm VERY disapponted in this outburst. We will do it for you , but you must not take sides.

[Grahameeboy]

Grahameeboy calm down you must not retaliate. I'm VERY disapponted in this outburst. We will do it for you , but you must not take sides.

Cheers Doc........

[McJim]

I can't imagine anyone being able to add anything to this discussion that hasn't been said a million times already. It's a good topic to make blood boil.

[Blondini]

I reckon to test them in a laboratory instead of rats mice dogs etc.Use human guinea pigs give them some good old exposure to mega radiation.Drown them and revive them ...well....you did ask...

[98tls]

What i want to know is wheres all the do gooder anti everything sensible types.......hell i thought this thread was going to fill in the abyss of a wednesday night....no coro........instead its all been rather civil...........

[Skyryder]

No.

Skyryder