Party pills BANNED!

[delusionz]

I've just read through 5 pages of utter crap, worn out arguments (both ways), some nasty insults and just general bickering.

My take is ban them.

That whole "it keeps people away from the hard drugs" is bullshit that's what that guy, fuck, what's his name I forgot who's always on the TV talking about his crapass pills will have you believe.

Remember when they said weed was the "gateway drug to P", that nonsense is more applicable to BZP.

It's simple, people take BZP because they cant get the real thing.

So on both sides (the users and the anti-users) theres no valid argument for keeping it. The people that can get drugs will get drugs and the people that cant get drugs it should remain that way.

[Zapf]

I've just read through 5 pages of utter crap, worn out arguments (both ways), some nasty insults and just general bickering.

My take is ban them.

That whole "it keeps people away from the hard drugs" is bullshit that's what that guy, fuck, what's his name I forgot who's always on the TV talking about his crapass pills will have you believe.

Remember when they said weed was the "gateway drug to P", that nonsense is more applicable to BZP.

It's simple, people take BZP because they cant get the real thing.

So on both sides (the users and the anti-users) theres no valid argument for keeping it. The people that can get drugs will get drugs and the people that cant get drugs it should remain that way.

I assume you are commenting from experience?

[Zapf]

And the drug dealers get richer with more drugs/customers, and gang warfare increases etc.

Perhaps I should buy up large on BZP... and then their price will triple after its banned.

Thank the government for making whoever that does the above rich... ermm.

[scumdog]

A hell of a lot of party-pill users are users because of the age-limit thing, the 'danger' element, the "I'm cool" appearance and the rebeliousness of using something their parents would not prove of, - and just a bit for actual effect.
In other words they're immature kids doing what immature kids do.

[Zapf]

ah so true, they can't buy achlo or get into bars so they pop the pill. Agreed, bad start and too young to know. Perhaps they should have put a age limit on them like 22 or 25. But we know the older ones will just buy them for the young ones and make a buck on it... gerrrr

[Wolf]

Remember when they said weed was the "gateway drug to P", that nonsense is more applicable to BZP.

Especially considering that the touted effect of BZP is "similar to that of amphetamines".

Quite a considerable difference between the effects of weed and those of P.

Which is more likely to lead to P usage when the effect loses its edge?

[moT]

i have just done extencive reserch on this topc for a uni assignment and have also made a very detailed submition to parliment as they are still in the first reading of this bill. origionaly i was for the bill being passed but after i did some reaserch i found out it is probably the safest and most sencible drug to take! there have been no reported deaths due to partypills where ciggerets cause 8000 unnessary deaths every year and drinking causes about 500 road deaths every year. party pills cause no road deaths or cause people to die, there ha been 27 hospital submittions by ABUSE of partypills and mixing it with other non reccomended drugs. it is these people who are giveing party pills a bad name. if you want furthur information PM me and i can give you my full report and submittion.

[moT]

it is quite a common occurance now that when a group of mates go out for a night on the town the sober driver will take some party pills instead of drinking. also banning party pills will hand them over to gangs where the ingredients wont be regulated and they could put any type of crap in there. also incouraging ppl to do harder drugs. party pills have also no long term affects when takeing them.

[Ragingrob]

Hmmm well I had a seizure due to party pills, that was fun

[moT]

Hmmm well I had a seizure due to party pills, that was fun

you obveously abused them its people like you who give them a bad name

[Hitcher]

It's hard to see how anybody could give them a good name. Any chemical taken to excess is dangerous. Any potion distilled by shady characters with no regulation or control on its manufacture is particularly dangerous. Any person who would willingly take such dubious products is an idiot. Any person who would attempt to mount a case promoting the consumption of such products is sadly deluded. Frivolous submissions will be rejected by officials and the select committee. The government has the numbers necessary to ban party pills. Get over it.

[Toaster]

Drugs are bad, mm kay?

So are my farts, but they aren't illegal

[Hitcher]

So are my farts, but they aren't illegal

They will be after 2012.

[Toaster]

A hell of a lot of party-pill users are users because of the age-limit thing, the 'danger' element, the "I'm cool" appearance and the rebeliousness of using something their parents would not prove of, - and just a bit for actual effect.
In other words they're immature kids doing what immature kids do.

Sounds exactly like why some immature bikers got into motorcycling!

[Toaster]

They will be after 2012.

It's hard to see how anybody could give them a good name. Any chemical taken to excess is dangerous. .... Any person who would willingly take such dubious products is an idiot. Any person who would attempt to mount a case promoting the consumption of such products is sadly deluded. ... Get over it.

Well said Hitcher. Drug taking is exactly that - stupid and also damaging to your one and only body. We don't get second chances.